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It's Not Easy Being A Climateer

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Hell. A bit of a stuff up on the link. Here is the Annual Mean Anomaly.

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/change/#tabs=Tracker&tracker=timeseries&tQ=graph%3Dtmean%26area%3Daus%26season%3D0112%26ave_yr%3D0
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 10:17:03 PM
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To Steele Redux.

Sorry for the dely in response. Go with con argument #10.

Just to clarify. I don't deny mankind's effect on the enviornment, but due to a lacking of changes that are constantly predicted by global warming, I also don't believe the global warming fears as much either. Rising tempatures in cities dues to more asphalt and less greenery to soak up the sun's heat makes it warmer, and more smog in cities due to localized areas are what we should be concerned about. Pollution reduction in localized areas for the sake of that localized area is worth doing. Global warming doesn't have to do anything with it, doesn't have to have faulty predictions, and exaggerated models. Just the honest approach of wanting to take care of the world around us should be enough. Using faulty fear tactics will most likely make people lose intreast in caring for the enviornment because the environmentalists themselves show themselves as unreliable.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 7:08:00 AM
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Not_Now.Soon,
Human activities are having a negative impact because humans unlike animals, are so stupid that they don't stop their practises despite things going wobbly right in front of their eyes.
We have to ability to actually enhance/compliment Nature but greed always throws that spanner into the works !
So, meanwhile we give the alarmists more reasons to argue & exploit & hijack reason for, yes you guessed right, money !
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 7:27:51 AM
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SR,

Here was your assertion..."The BOM graph however was not of average temperatures but rather Annual Temperature Mean Anomalies and the date series started in 1910."

The only difference between average temperatures and mean anomalies is that, with anomalies, the average for some arbitrary period is deducted. eg say the average for year X is 16c, but the average for some previous 30 year period was 14c, then the anomaly is 2c.

The alarmists use anomalies because it makes the changes appear to be more pronounced.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 12:01:15 PM
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Dear mhaze,

You write;

“The only difference between average temperatures and mean anomalies is that, with anomalies, the average for some arbitrary period is deducted. eg say the average for year X is 16c, but the average for some previous 30 year period was 14c, then the anomaly is 2c.”

Nope, you still don't get it do you. You obviously don't understand the difference between Annual Mean Temperature and the Annual Max Temperature. Go research it and get back to me.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 1:55:05 PM
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Well I do know the difference between them but that wasn't what you were talking about.

Let me repeat what you wrote "The BOM graph however was not of average temperatures but rather Annual Temperature Mean Anomalies"

ie average temperatures v. mean temperatures anomalies.

Ok, I see now. We are in one of SR muddy the water exercises which always occur when he realises he's screwed up.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 2:17:00 PM
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