Hi there TTBN...

As usual, you're pragmatic approach of analyzing Bejing's barely concealed intent, to remove all democracy from the subjects of HKG sooner rather than later, is spot on, I reckon.

And despite all the assurances they gave Great Britain, and the population of HKG, post-1997, they'll do precisely what they wish to do, and in a time frame that suits them. Anyway who'll stop them, who's capable of stopping them, only the United States, and why would they bother?

Dear Hasbeen,

«You obviously don't understand democracy Yuyutsu»

Democracy is a particular system of management, whereby people within a group have a certain say, etc.

BTW, we do not have a democracy in Australia, but I digress.

«In a democracy every one has a say, but then everyone must obey the decision of the majority.»

Aha, there lies the problem: it is not "everyone", nor the majority of everyone - it is only those who are arbitrarily deemed by the group itself to be under its jurisdiction and then only the majority of some of them (such as humans who are over 18 and are not imprisoned, etc.).

It doesn't really matter how a given group of people chooses to arrange its internal affairs: if they want an absolute monarch then let them have an absolute monarch, if they prefer the rule of Ayatollahs then let them have their Ayatollahs; and if they prefer a kind of the democracy then let them have that kind of democracy, but if you care to be decent, act morally and be any better than China, then first you need the consent of the people involved to be part of your group. This free consent was never asked for nor given, neither by the people of Hong Kong nor by the people of Australia.

«Under your definition the people of my district could decide our speed limits are ridiculous, & set their own at 200 Miles per hour, & drive everywhere at that speed.»

The people of your district ought to be able to decide whether they prefer to drive at 200 Miles per hour or to belong to the state of Australia, along with all the advantages and disadvantages that go with it. Were they ever given that choice?

«I have not heard of a definitive poll of Biloela people to confirm the media/activist claim that everyone in the town want these people to stay.»

Neither did I - that was a hypothetical example whose purpose was to look at whether the Australian regime would behave better than the Chinese.

Dear Mr. Opinion,

It is not the Chinese that we should fear, but rather their totalitarian way of life. Should you really care who is beating you? Only that it hurts!

Dear Yuyutsu,

It's obvious that you do not come from a humanities background but do you really need to advertise it.

Chinese communist culture is similar to secular humanism. They cheat, lie and ignore truth as long as they save face.

In the two existing threads about this subject I warned the protesters they may find the very thing they fight for lost forever
Freedom
It is now known the head of Honk Kong, the woman they protest about would leave if she could
I think, honestly police know, and fear China may crush the demonstrations
And too know they could stop that, if they stopped the protesters over reaching
China, not Hong Kong, could not care less about freedom