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Death Penalty - Should this ultimate punishment be revisited for certain atrocious crime(s)?

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Foxy things such as "initiative, leadership, drive,
negotiating ability, willingness to take risks and
persuasiveness) are not even taught in universities" & thank god for that. Universities do a bloody awful job of teaching many things, handicapped as they are by a lefty mindset that pervades most of them.

Of course none of these things can be taught, other than perhaps negotiating ability, & I'm somewhat doubtful that can be taught either. They are either abilities you were born with, & perhaps improved by life experience, or you don't have them. They can never be taught.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:56:54 AM
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Dear Hasbeen,

Universities are places of learning. Obviously you see them as being something different but I cannot make out what it is you think they are. Can you elaborate on what you think they are?
Posted by Mr Opinion, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 12:08:46 PM
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ALTRAV,
Until now you would have been hard pressed to find a stronger advocate than me for capital punishment for those that committed heinous crimes. I believed that by their actions they had forfeited their right to exist in our society.

However this changed in recent times, with the Pell case, where 4 years previously, in Victoria, the rules were altered to remove the laws that protected persons from getting convicted by accusations alone. Prosecutors were having trouble in finding evidence on which to convict peadophiles so they allowed convictions based on accusations only. They made life easier for prosecutors. Unfortunately the consequences of this is that it makes us all subject to conviction by accusation alone. Before this there was a need to have supporting evidence to convict a person of any crime.

In the Pell case there was no solid or supporting evidence, only accusations that allowed a guilty verdict. This demonstrated to me just how flimsy our justice system is. The government in Victoria removed our protection from false accusations with a simple amendment to law. All quietly done, with no public consultation that I am aware of.
Posted by HenryL, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 12:32:41 PM
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Dear HenryL,

And most importantly Pell wasn't even dressed for the occasion. Maybe they should dress Pell up and put him through the motions to see if he could have. Or maybe even dress Mark Weinberg up to look like a possible paedophile Pell and put him through the motions to see if Pell was dressed for the occasion. It's not a matter of right or wrong but how one dresses for the occasion.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 12:42:56 PM
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Mr O,

WTF are you on?
What are you talking about?
I would have thought this topic was a rather sensitive one.
One that requires maturity and pragmatism, not levity and cynicism.
Posted by ALTRAV, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 1:01:58 PM
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Dear ALTRAV,

I think it is pretty obvious what I am talking about. It wasn't me who inferred Pell wasn't dressed for the occasion. I'm just saying put it to the test to see if he wasn't dressed for the occasion.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 1:16:27 PM
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