indy in truth not much to say about your blind view see your view of good government hings on your national service fascination not much else
No party we ever had or will have will ever be perfect
And while I could list a very long list of failures from this federal one, I still want their supporters to do that

Belly I realise it is almost impossible for someone like you, a totally blind supporter of a Labor that no linger exists, to realise most of us are not supporters of any party. I have never supported any party, ever. I know it is hard for you to believe, but most don't give a damn about parties.

I could have supported Hawke, if he hadn't collapsed on the nuclear issue, showing he wanted more to be PM than do the right thing by the country.

I could have supported Keating, if he hadn't been so far up himself I could not see him.

Yes I am anti socialist/communist, & equally anti the rip off mob Labor have become. It should have been obvious to even blind Freddy that I was totally anti what the Libs were under Turnbull, & I was not much more favourably disposed to them under Fraser.

You want a middle ground, well you sure have it with the current lot in power. Very much too far left for serious conservatives, they are only marginally better than Turnbull, & perhaps only in word, rather than deed.

I could have supported Howard if he had stopped the crazy immigration, & not pandered to the anti gum lobby, & I would have loved to support Abbott, if he had been able to get that foot out of his mouth. His stopping of the boats is still the best thing ANY PM has done in my life time.

I can't believe anyone could want a dill like Albanese as Oz PM, but I suppose he is only about twice as bad as Morrison.

While you have this belief that everyone supports a party the way you do, you are crippled in forming any opinion on other posters, our comments, or the facts of life.

Hasbeen do you understand you rant?
Also you get close to madness in claiming while your thoughts are good mine are foolish
Do not give your self tickets you never earned
Know my belief in fair go mate shines still
That while your side is wasting millions in deporting kids mine could have stopped the boats [there by stopping your side using it as a weapon] forever with the Malaysian solution
Too we wanted tax reforms based on fairness you gifted the already rich
Dick Smith told of his HALF A MILLION DOLLAR franking credits each year
Your side talks of extending the cash less welfare card, refuses to give pensioners rises
And bloke truth be known your side is up to its dirty shoulders in questionable donations
Including giving tax breaks to people who do not pay tax
EG Rupert Murdock

No party we ever had or will have will ever be perfect
Belly,
For crying out loud, isn't that what I just told you ? None of them including myself are perfect.
What I did say & I stick by my words is that the LNP are the less incompetent of the two. As for 'Including giving tax breaks to people who do not pay tax' I can tell you that I have personally witnessed staunch Labor supporter Public Servants working on their salary sacrifice, negative gearing etc. in working hours, using the work phone, computers & faxes.
Even to pick up their personal mail the used the office car, Teachers were amongst the greediest, all Labor supporters, so stop telling me about that crowd !
Yes, our big Company bosses are out for as much as they can get because Govts let them but at least they employ people, public servants don't, they just scramble their frequent flyer points.

Belly what is your problem with simple English?

I don't have a side.

Is that plain enough?

This morning very early out of bed, I have read the news and this subject is still burning my party
Yet here my view is I am told, uninformed and wasteful
My mate [yes I think he is] indy is near breathless shouting at me to wake up
Can you walk with me on this, think just for a second about my view?
See these actions took place three years ago
They, wrong then wrong now, are likely mirrored on the other side
BUT is my demand for constant improvement from my party, constant refusal to let such things take place wrong
Fundamentally if we ever, ever hide such as this because it is our party we are as bad as the idiots involved
ONLY constant demands for better is good enough