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Should We Worry About China?

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I've just come across the following link which
may be useful:

http://nsc.crawford.anu.edu.au/department-news/9880/chinese-money-and-australias-security
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 11:23:13 AM
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Everyone has an opinion, some of us consume other opinions and even adopt them
It hurts to see a comment like ttbn,s
Yet we all must understand China is as described by Shadow Minister
Have no doubt, China threatens the western world
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 11:59:28 AM
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Dear Foxy,

Chamberlain had a piece a paper from Adolf Hitler to show folks back home that there would be peace in their time. We can't predict the future but we should let our knowledge of history guide us towards better ends instead of following those who keep saying things like 'Don't worry. It'll be alright. You're worrying about nothing.'

When it comes to China the warning signs are everywhere and as you reminded us somewhere else Napoleon was astute enough to recognise it over two hundred years ago. Unfortunately for Australia it's too late and I reckon Australia definitely has a Chinese future.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 12:11:29 PM
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The parallels between China and Germany aren't perfect but good enough. A powerful totalitarian state with a burning desire to right what is sees as the wrongs perpetrated against it by history. A state which believes it and its people are the natural hegemons of the world. A state where all the resources of the state are devoted to the ambitions of its leaders with a massive military build up accompanied by professions of peaceful intentions.

And a massive number of westerners who really want to turn a blind-eye to the bleeding obvious before them in the hopes of buying peace at any price.

Of course there aren't any Jewish pogroms in China although the Uighurs might beg to disagree.

One big difference is that the German leadership believed they had a small window of opportunity to establish their empire before bigger neighbours overwhelmed them. China on the other hand thinks time is on its side. The Germans were wrong. Perhaps the Chinese are as well.

The real worry about China isn't so much its growing power but instead the fragility of its power. The trade war is demonstrating just how precarious China's economy is.
In the past, the Communist Party effectively made a deal with the people. Give us your freedom and we'll give you growing wealth and a return to national pride. If it looks like they can't fulfil their part of the bargain, the people may well reciprocate.
Authoritarians who see their internal power threatened often try to distract the populace via external adventures.

China isn't ready to take on the US yet, but the Party might get to the point where is sees no alternative if it wants to retain its power and wealth.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 1:17:49 PM
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Mr. O,

I don't need to elaborate for you, given your past comments on China. As for other posters, 90% of them are not interested in anything I say, and if they don't bother to educate themselves on China and other threats to Australia, that's not my problem.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 1:50:13 PM
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Australian Chinese relations are characterised by
strong trade bonds. China is Australia's largest
trading partner, while Australia is a leading
source of resources for China.

Australia's key
exports are worth billions and these
are followed by education services, which also rake
in billions from international students. There's
also the reliance on China in the tourism sector.

All this gives Australia more reason than most countries
to hope that US and China can resolve their trade
differences sooner rather than later and that Chinese
authorities move more towards softening their demands.

Our relationship with China has had its ups and downs.
But in 2013 China and Australia agreed to establish a
prime ministerial level dialogue between the two
countries which makes Australia only a handful of
countries to have such a dialogue.

How long this lasts - we shall have to wait and see.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 2:01:26 PM
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