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Is the world truly in trouble?

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Foxy, dear, are you now suggesting that the survey was representative of all those eligible to participate.
You do realise that not everyone bothered to come out, because it was not compulsory.
The truth is the sentiment was a clear and resounding NO, and you know it was.
Look Foxy, someone else has done the math, I was happy with my numbers, even though I was light.
On another thread I was corrected, by two posters, where I was shown, mathematically, the NO result was in fact the clear winner, taking all of the eligible respondents into consideration, not just the ones who felt compelled to.
The result showed us that the YES camp were better organised and made sure ALL their respondents got to comment.
Where-as the NO vote were mostly disgusted and incensed that they had to go out of there way to do something they didn't like or want, so whatever it was, 20 or 30% did not bother so you can add them to the NO camp.
So your going to tell me that less than 15,000,000 Australians are eligible to vote or participate in surveys?
Is not Australia's population in excess of 25,000,000?
Sure there are children or ineligible people in that number but still.
Like most things political, they never ever truly follow the will of the people, so why would this one be any different?
Posted by ALTRAV, Thursday, 1 August 2019 7:32:56 PM
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ALTRAV,

Whether you like it or not the facts remain that
8 out of 10 eligible Australians - 79.5%
expressed their views on same sex marriage.
Those that chose not to don't count. It was
their choice - not to vote for whatever reason.
They now have to live with the consequences of
their actions. The legislation has been passed.
In a democracy that's the way things work.
If you choose not to take part you have no one to
blame but yourself. No excuses.

150 Federal Electoral Divisions recorded a majority yes
response whereas only 17 of the 150 Federal Electoral
Divisions recorded a majority of No responses.

You choose not to vote - you lose.

Grin and bear it. Your fault!
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 1 August 2019 11:01:45 PM
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Foxy, you can play the numbers game all you like, in the end the facts say one thing but the truth will always be the truth.
And just because a few people for whatever reason did not bother to indicate their preference because they were utterly disgusted with the whole thing, (I know many people scoffed at the idea of not bothering because they were NO people).
Where-as I did not come across one YES person who did not vote.
I would suggest you look at the numbers in seeing what they don't say.
You will see a different number altogether, with the TRUE result being a resounding NO!
I did not do the numbers, two OLO'ens did, and they too came away with the same conclusion.
Posted by ALTRAV, Friday, 2 August 2019 2:16:58 AM
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Foxy as you will know the numbers game is the only game in town
In fact politics has always been about numbers, the numbers who want do not want changes'
The same sex ability to wed is not confined to Australia
All over the world voters said yes
While this morning stocks and commodities fall because of Trump's trade war we talk about the disappointment of those who voted no?
America had to do something about its trade deficit, but I doubt undermining the whole world trading system is it
Posted by Belly, Friday, 2 August 2019 7:17:48 AM
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ALTRAV,

With the decision of same sex marriage people were
given the right to participate in
the decision-making process. Those who chose not to
participate got the results that they deserved.
(you snooze, you lose). The same as if you chose not
to vote in an election, you can't complain if the
government that gets elected is not the one you wanted.

Saying that many people were opposed against same
sex marriage is a furphy. If they were so strongly
opposed they would have made their vote count where
it mattered. Obviously they didn't. So arguing about
something that they had a chance to participate in
and chose not to because they felt "disgusted" as
you claim - did not achieve anything for them - and
as we know actions do speak louder than words. So
cut the blabber now. They had the opportunity to do
something about it and they blew it. Your argument
is mute.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 2 August 2019 10:25:23 AM
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Dear Belly,

We know that in politics it is definitely a
numbers game. Every vote counts.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 2 August 2019 10:28:10 AM
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