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To David.

None of those concerns are about the issue of porn, nor does your opinion matter to me (I'll explain why in the bullet point on hypocrisy). I have put points into the topic without going in the direction of religion being the main focus. However your stance and your behavior aren't going away in this topic or any future topic. So I'll address it.

Try to talk to me about anything without having to speak for me on my views. If I'm not having to defend my views that aren't part of the subject (sometimes try to ignore the false criticisms in order to value the topic enough to not get buried and derailed); or to continually correct what my views actually are, after you state what they are according to you; then there's a very good chance that you might actually come to see what my viewpoints are, or even see the point I mean in any discussion.

Here are some cliff notes for you.

•I am not a danger to society, to you, or to anyone else. Jesus said to love your neighbor, and to love your enemies. For a while that meant to me to not have any enemies because if you love them they can't be your enemy. However I now see how someone can be your enemy and never give up on being your enemy. Trying their best to trip you up and push your buttons. Loving your enemy is something I now understand as the challenge that it really is.

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Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Monday, 24 June 2019 6:04:13 AM
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•I am not against women or women's rights. In my opinion women should be treated fairly. Fairly does not mean equally in my opinion, because there are some things that separate the lives of men from the lives of women. Such as women need to be better protected then men do. Crime can happen to anyone but it seems that women are targeted much more often and that awareness means a heightened sense of danger, self defense classes, or just going out in groups instead of being alone and exposed (especially at night). Though there are a few other things to concern the differences between women and men, over all fairness and equality over lap quite a bit. Having the same wage for the same job, and having opportunities in the workforce for well paying jobs, opportunities in politics, sports, hobbies, and much more are part of the overlap where fairness to women is the same thing as equality to women.

But I do not see abortion as a right, any more then I see a mother or father having the right to harm their children after they are born. This is your focus, and as far as I'm aware your only complaint against me on women's rights. We have argued on this matter, but my stance on this isn't just from a Christian stand point. Killing babies is a horrific thing to me.

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Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Monday, 24 June 2019 6:07:51 AM
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•There is right and wrong. This can be discussed in multiple ways. From ethics and morals, laws and punishment, religion and philosophy, as well as straight pragmatic cause and effect. Anyone who sees the wrongs in the world and tolerates it or encourages it is not in the right. They might avoid doing wrong themselves by tolerating an evil or a danger in the world, instead of getting their hands dirty by standing against it. However that does not put them in being right because they tolerate something bad. Nor does standing up against something wrong while doing something just as bad or worse make someone in the right. The topic of laws, ethics, and results of certain actions, are something I am open to discussing, and something I have opinions on myself.

•I am not against democracy, but it isn't democracy if you have to silence any and all Christian expression and views. From what I see your actions and views show a danger to democracy. If there is anything that disagree with you, you attack it aggressively. There is hypocrisy in your views against Christians being open about their faith, while you push and act as a missionary against Christianity. Don't accuse me of being against democracy while you do much worse.

•Hypocrisy is a value I hate. If I see it in myself I try to remove it. If I see it in others I lose respect for them. Based on many of your actions in these forums I have no respect for you because of hypocrisy and double standards (as well as a single minded disrespect that you've pushed on me without any warning or reason).

•Lastly, my faith and my religious views are a strong element in my life. Don't act like you know what they are before you hear me say what they are. I've put a lot of thought into these areas. You know nothing of my philosophy on life. And I get tired of trying to correct you instead of discussing the topics that are brought up in these forums.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Monday, 24 June 2019 6:13:54 AM
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Dear NNS,

Your religious views are a strong element in your life. I consider a belief in heaven, hell, God, the devil etc. as silly and harmful. I consider them far worse than porn or alcohol. Religious convictions drive people to interfere in other people's activities, go on crusades, burn people at the stake, persecute heretics and people of another religion and do many other nasty things. However, it is precious to me that we live in a free society, and I recognise the futility of banning things that full a need for people even if they are silly and harmful. I certainly don't silence your silly and harmful beliefs. In my opinion your views are a considerable danger to society if we look at what has been done by the Inquisition, the Wars of the Reformation, the Holocaust, Christian imperialism, Prohibition, slavery and the other evils inspired or justified by Christianity. However, it would also be a danger to society to ban your views. Religious indoctrination of children as though the Bible and Koran are true has been banned in Sweden.

https://mybroadband.co.za/forum/threads/sweden-bans-religous-indoctrination-in-schools.134125/

I think Sweden has gone too far. I think your Christian beliefs are harmful. I think they deny reason and common sense. However, I would not ban them or your right to express them. If they can be banned other less harmful ideas can be banned. Any dissent can be banned. You have a right to be wrong. I will do what I can to counter your harmful beliefs with reason.
Posted by david f, Monday, 24 June 2019 8:00:06 AM
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Welp, that was a lot of wasted time. I'm not going to repeat that mistake David. I gave you the information to correct you, and even stressed one major issue with you. You trying to speak for me. And you still don't get it?

Here's the reality check. Your rationale isn't in line with what's real. It's over philosophized and antigonistically analyzed. For what's real, I'll say it again. I'm no threat or danger to anyone. Nor are my beliefs.

Not that I expect you to listen. So hear this instead. Your actions are your own enemy. Your rationale a stepping stone towards harassment. If you couldn't have a civil conversation with Exhil on the topic he brought up, even after he let you know he agrees with you on religion, then you have nothing to offer anyone else either. Everyone else will be able to see your faulty reasoning exactly for what it is. Hopefully one day you'll notice it too. Either way I'm done wasting time with you.

Fight on another conversation if you want, but your views and your opinions are worthless. I already explained why for that too. Fairwell.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Monday, 24 June 2019 6:02:32 PM
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Dear NNS,

Farewell, not fairwell. Farewell is a parting hope that the person you are parting from fares well. I hope you do.
Posted by david f, Monday, 24 June 2019 6:09:08 PM
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