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Dodged a bullet

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Loudmouth,
The QandA transcript is now up at http://www.abc.net.au/qanda/2019-03-06/11143576
Tony Jones sad "...your government..." to an MP who's part of the Federal government, so obviously he didn't mean the state government.
Here is the relevant part in full:

NICOLLE FLINT
Yeah, absolutely. And... So, the point, you know, Jimmy, that you were making about jobs is a critical one. And, obviously, I’m South Australian, very proud Holden owner, third-generation Holden owner – my parents, my grandparents, both sets. Mum and Dad and grandparents are farmers, and we’ve always...

TONY JONES
That’s a bit ironic, that it was your government that decided to get rid of Holden.

NICOLLE FLINT
But my...

JIMMY BARNES
Joe Hockey, wasn’t it?

NICOLLE FLINT
The Liberal government didn’t get rid of Holden.

JIMMY BARNES
Well, that’s not funny.

NICOLLE FLINT
No, no, no...

JIMMY BARNES
I think it was a long, slow process, actually.

NICOLLE FLINT
Look, there were many factors that contributed, but I...

TONY JONES
Decided not to prop up the car industry anymore – let’s put it that way?

NICOLLE FLINT
The unions, and also the Labor Party, have a lot to answer for here as well.

JIMMY BARNES
But...

NICOLLE FLINT
Because when you have...when you have a situation that is unsustainable, where your product is not enough in demand, where you’re paying people very well...as we should, but you’ve got to balance that with how the company is going. So, you know, as I say, and as I said in parliament on this very issue when Holden closed, which was a terribly sad day for South Australia and for all of those workers...
Posted by Aidan, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 6:10:42 PM
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Dear individual,

You fantasised,

"Labor used up all the money Costello put aside for our future ! We're only just now starting to pick up again because the sane number of voters at the last two elections."

What? Lol. What money had Costello put aside? Australia's gross debt was $58 billion when Rudd took the reins. A combination of stimulus packages of around $50 billion and the economic downturn caused by the GFC saw that figure climb $200 billion to sit at $257 billion when Abbott took over but with tapering increases.

So what did Hockey do when he had the purse strings? Increased the debt ceiling from $300 billion to $500 billion.
http://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/treasurer-joe-hockey-increases-debt-limit-to-500-billion-20131022-2vz6w.html

So the debt increased during the fight to stave off the GFC by $200 billion but it now sits at around $570 billion dollars, an increase of $300 billion after 6 bloody years of Liberal government mismanagement.

Crickey you really do talk out of your arse on this stuff don't you mate.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 6:21:57 PM
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SteeleRedux,
So, where did that 60 Billion Futures Fund fit in then ?
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 7:33:09 PM
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So, if the show was that bad then why did Rudd see it fit to raise his own salary by $200,000/year ?
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 7:47:13 PM
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well its come to light that our Border Control rescued 41 drowning illegals 10 days ago. Yep what compassion Phelps, Banks, Wong and Labour have. They would have to be the most stupid team on this planet. And of course Aiden, Foxy and others can't think past their totally discredited virtue signalling and failed ideology.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 8:24:32 PM
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Dear Loudmouth,

If you are in any way suggesting it wasn't the Liberal Party who cut the legs out of the car industry then you are deluded.

The decision was made when the Aussie dollar was well over the USD due to our mining boom, nearly $1.20 in fact. It was no wonder the industry was finding it hard to be competitive under those conditions.

Do you remember when Obama saw the US car industry through its difficult times despite Mitt Romney wanting to allow them to fall into bankruptcy and radical rationalisation. Instead he pumped in $80 billion and they are now employing even more Americans, have paid back most of the loans, and are profitable companies.

Our own car manufacturers were not so lucky. The Libs have always been anti manufacturing as this sector has always been heavily unionised. Along with their National Party buddies they have forced trade deals that have sold out our manufacturing jobs to get better access to agricultural markets.

Just a final note, the Aussie dollar now sits at .70 USD, which would have meant our auto workers were almost twice as competitive as they were at the height of the mining boom if they still had jobs.

What a disgrace Flint was suggesting it was 'high unionised wages' that were to blame for the closures. It was shortsighted economic vandalism of an important industry as well as opportunistic union culling by the Liberal Party and to instead point the finger at the Adelaide workforce was just pathetic from her.

And here you are defending the woman ahead of all those working families who had their livelihoods stripped away from them.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 10:19:25 PM
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