Foxy, you talk about the effects of dispossession, discrimination etc but somehow you are overlooking the fact that the people with the absolutely worst outcomes in health, education and welfare are those still living on land they never lost or had taken from them. They still have their language, their law and culture and access to all their traditional food. Their children were never removed.
So, how is it that colonisation has so disadvantaged these people that they cannot help themselves?

Big Nana, will you please just stop it, you're ruining the narrative.

Dear Big Nana,

You write;

"Foxy, you talk about the effects of dispossession, discrimination etc but somehow you are overlooking the fact that the people with the absolutely worst outcomes in health, education and welfare are those still living on land they never lost or had taken from them. They still have their language, their law and culture and access to all their traditional food. Their children were never removed."

How about you name a couple of decent sized communities which you deem fit that bill.

Dear Big Nana,

I don't know the answer to your question -
as I stated earlier, I am still
on my journey of discovery. Which I am
not finding easy.

I have barely touched on the complex issues involved
here. However, one thing is for sure - there is much
more to learn - including - from the "generalisations"
on both sides of this debate.

cont'd ...

Your naming decent sized communities that fit your
description would definitely help this discussion.
And make your argument more credible.

Okay, Steele, so if someone scratches their arse, it's obvious that they're the most sophisticated proctologists the world has ever known ?

Is that how you are supposed to gild every lily these days ?

Okay. Let idiocy have its head. Time will tell. Not much point otherwise trying to get anything across to you.

Okay, there was farming right across Australia, with vast storage silos made ingeniously out of branches (Aboriginal people were the first to build harvest storage silos).

Economic organisation was so complex that thousands of people were mobilised at any one time to dig paddocks nine miles long by up to nine miles wide, with digging sticks. In one 'tribe', people were organised in up to a hundred teams of a hundred diggers each, while other warriors patrolled the forty-odd miles of fencing to keep out animals keen to eat the kangaroo grass inside the fence rather than the kangaroo grass outside of it.

Entire 'tribes' were mobilised to cut the grass and thresh it; women were usually the carriers of the baskets of grass-seed; a good harvest could provide enough for five years. Much of it was traded as far from NSW as the Alice springs area, up around Mt Isa and down as far as the Swan Hill area.

Although there is no evidence found yet of such trade, obviously there was. Each major tribe had its equivalent of a minister of agricultural trade while those in western Victoria had ministers of Aquaculture, in addition to academies of aquacultural research. There is an unconfirmed report of salted eels being traded from western Victoria as far as Macassar.

Make it up as you go. Oh well, that's how Aboriginal 'knowledge' is constructed these days and believed by extremely non-racist white fellas. Why should you be any different ?