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A Conversation About this Election

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http://www.smh.com.au/federal-election-2019/jacqui-lambie-resurrects-political-career-as-clive-palmer-tanks-20190519-p51oyk.html
Now that scmo got his mandate I offer the likely senate out come as proof that house stalls good government
Yes some willsayit is democratic, but in truth why?
How democratic is small minorities blackmailing the elected government
Nothing has changed for me, Labor forever, but I know, just as it is for Liberals, my side will join with those minorities, some times, just to stall bills
A senate with half the numbers, needing twice the vote to gain a seat, three year terms, says an elected government gets to govern
Posted by Belly, Monday, 20 May 2019 6:24:07 AM
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Hi Joe,

The world has moved on from Lenin, Mao and Marx. There is nothing in common with revolutionaries like Lenin and Mao, I'll leave out Marx, more or less a philosopher, and progressive politics. It is fashionable for detractors to associate progressive politics with Marxism, but that is no more justified than one associating conservative politics with fascism.

I see your post is filled with oddles of cynicism, do you believe all people are driven purely by self interest, and altruistic motives have no part to play in the human ethos. Every politician in Canberra , based on their pay packet, are "much more affluent than average Australians". I would also suspect the average income of those challenging incumbents on Saturday was also higher than the average Australian income. What are we to do, about all these self interested individuals wanting to get into politics. Nothing?

I can't let this go without comment. //Pauline, Anning & Hasbeen// The triple entente of Australian politics. Wow! I can only imagine what a dynamic force in politics they would be.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 20 May 2019 8:53:33 AM
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There will be much soul-searching, questions
about polling over preferences from Clive Palmer
and Pauline Hanson's One Nation, questions over
the ambitious policy agenda that Labor set.

There will also undoubtedly be questions about the
leadership of the outgoing Opposition leader. Labor
did not see this result coming (few people did) and
of course many are visibly upset.

Some will say that Labor ran the party's expansive
positive vision for the country while the Liberals
ran a scare campaign.

The Greens are set to hold onto their seats in the
Senate.

Antony Green and the ABC computer are predicting
a majority win for the Coalition. At least 77 seats,
perhaps more.

Patricia Karvelas in her analysis writes that -
Scott Morrison has earnt a permanent place as a
Liberal Party Legend - returning the government in
what was meant to be an unwinnable election for the
Coalition. Scott Morrison smashed the doctrine that
disunity will lead to electoral death.

Despite 3 Prime Ministers in two terms of government
the Queensland swing to back the Coalition and swings
in Tasmania and WA showed that ultimately jobs and
fear of change are too dominant.

The Prime Minister made the campaign all about economic
management and himself out campaigning Labor by running
a brutal and stunning campaign demolishing Labor's
big target policy agenda.

Mr Morrison made the campaign a referendum on him and Bill
Shorten and down-played the Liberal brand cultivating a new
Scott Morrison image and promising to be a steady pair of
hands on the economy.

cont'd ...
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 20 May 2019 11:08:09 AM
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cont'd ...

Political analysts tell us that Scott Morrison
can now set a course and get things done.
He cannot get knocked off. He has been returned
in his own right. He should have authority within
his own party. He can now set the course with
Tony Abbott gone.

Scott Morrison can now look at some of the elements of
The Labor campaign and try to work out the issues that
motivated people to vote Labor - things like climate
change and energy policy - and as stated earlier,
with Tony Abbott gone, Morrison just may be able to
get something done.

We shall have to wait and see.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 20 May 2019 11:15:22 AM
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One thing that bothers me with ScoMo re-elected is that you have nations leaders in Trump and ScoMo willing to go the extra mile for a Pro-Israel policy agenda;

- Moving The Damn Embassy -

Hints at a bigger concern: Namely a 'War with Iran' agenda.

I've seen how aligning ourselves with US had lead to 'Wars for Israel' in the past, namely Iraq.
One only need read 'Zionist Plan for the Middle East' also known as Yinon Plan to know it was a part of Israels long running foreign policy goals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yinon_Plan#Iraq

500,000 dead babies, but it was worth it Madeleine Albright said...

I think there is significant geopolitical danger on the horizon here.
A war with Iran is now likely inevitable, it's what Israel and Neoconservatives have been working towards for years.

Australians may have voted in support of WWIII
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 20 May 2019 11:20:09 AM
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Armchair,

Why can't Iran just stop and dismantle their nuclear program?
Why can't there be worldwide nuclear disarmament?
Why must humankind continue in conflict and aggression instead of actively choosing a path to world peace and world cooperation?
Why is the UN a toothless, power-dominated 'wet blanket'?

Maybe it is time that only women ruled in all decision-making; only women could stand for government and could be world leaders; only women could be ambassadors, only women in the UN etc?
They certainly couldn't make more of a mess of it than men have done.

Surely Angela Merkel would make a much, much better World No.1 than, say, Donald FullofMyself Trump?

Something has got to change before the world descends into an even greater morass of distrust, competitiveness and conflict.
And, the leaders of all world religions have got to get together to construct a fully meaningful 'Human Rights Charter' for World Peace (In Our Times)!

Maybe Australia should simply refuse to get engaged in any conflict outside our immediate region - other than perhaps in a purely peacekeeping role.

Oz and Iran? No. And, it's time that Israel made peace with the Palestinians - no more delays, no more hedging, no more procrastination.

ScoMo's a good guy; give him a chance.
Posted by Saltpetre, Monday, 20 May 2019 12:46:32 PM
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