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A Conversation About this Election

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Dear Foxy,

Sorry to hear you need an op,
I hope it all goes well,
I'm sure you'll be back,
going from strength to strength,
to keep all those radicals honest.

All the very best,
and I hope you get all you wish for.

Pete, xo
Posted by Saltpetre, Sunday, 12 May 2019 12:24:20 PM
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My predictions then
Shorten wins
He, *knowing* voters demand it, will stop the boats
But yes some will test the waters and come, may even be on the way
Shorten, *knowing the future of the ALP demands it* will balance the budget
People warm to Bill
Who will lead the defeated Liberals
Will it become, for a short time, two parties
Scomo has a great family
He almost cried with love and pride as he saw them off the stage
Nearly as much as the day he lost Ruperts phone number
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 12 May 2019 12:59:31 PM
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Good Afternoon Everybody,

We've just come back from a lovely lunch with
our children and grandchildren. We did not
discuss politics at all. Surprisingly.
The Bistro was full of happy smiling faces.
The food was excellent, as was the service.
All mums got a glass of champers - and a ticket
in a lottery to be drawn later this afternoon.
There's three prizes - I'm hoping I may win one.

Anyway, politically we're on the last week.
I hope that things will calm down a bit during
the week - although I suspect it won't - it
may even get nastier.

What a shame if that happens. We may disagree on
many things but I think that all of us should be
able to see how lucky we really are in this country.
No matter who gets into government - we haven't
much to really complain about, compared to some
other countries.

Anyway, I'm feeling very positive at the moment.
Perhaps it's the champers
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 12 May 2019 3:03:34 PM
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Good to see you had a good day Foxy, hope all mums did
Watched Scomo only reinforced my view he is gone
It will warm up, I TRULY think a refugee boat may arrive before Saturday [escorted by the navy?]
It will get very dirty but in the end may hurt them not the target
After all such rubbish tells us they think voters are silly
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 12 May 2019 4:03:58 PM
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Luciferase, baseload doesn't equal dispatchable electricity.

Energy economics in Germany are very different from SA:
SA is a very sunny state; Germany is not.
Demand per square kilometre is high in Germany but low in SA (so finding additional good wind farm sites is much easier in SA than in Germany).
If SA, or anyone else, was in Germany's situation, I'd suggest they opt for nuclear power. Indeed I still think that would've been the wisest course of action for Germany. But they chose otherwise. Do you still think Germany knows better?

Meanwhile in SA, nuclear and coal are both expensive options; we don't have Germany's disadvantages, so it's already cheaper to go with renewables.

Little if any storage is needed to meet Shorten's pathetic renewable energy targets. Your fixation on getting enough storage for several days' grid consumption at a time (which probably won't be needed until we're at 90% renewables) blinds you to the reality of what storage can do already. And while there are likely to be some big breakthroughs in storage (including batteries based cheap elements like iron and sodium) a lot of the cost improvements are instead likely to be the result of many smaller breakthroughs.

>it's thanks to massive expenditure on buying and running the new diesel fleet,
>nothing to do to do with intermittent renewables, which is what the diesel is there to backup
Actually they're there mainly to cater for high demand situations, and AIUI the last few of those occurred on very hot days (when solar output was high) and very cold days (when wind output was high). And IIRC the new diesel fleet have only run for two days so far - and one of those was purely for export (to alleviate a power shortage in Victoria when one of their coal fired generators failed).

If you skip the rhetoric and look at the facts, you'll see that although the diesel generators and the intermittent renewables have both paid a role in the reestablishment of SA's electricity supply independence, the generators running on natural gas have been far more significant.
Posted by Aidan, Sunday, 12 May 2019 5:30:04 PM
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I do like this sign at the Gosford Anglican Church this Sunday.

https://i.redd.it/y6ou7sn20ox21.jpg
Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 12 May 2019 6:20:01 PM
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