Foxzy at least my problem, and it was eating me,got a result
Believe it not because of that anti Shorten thread
if Bill was any of the things he is charged with here it would be ME telling us here in print
Will look, also at Wednesday's third debate
We can only hope

Morrison was consummate in handling Leigh Sales on the 7.30 report tonight. Win lose or draw I haven't seen a politician handle himself under fire like that for awhile. Very impressive command of the facts and of her strafing attacks.

I'm not a fan of LNP's energy policy, but it's the least worst unless one wishes to contemplate the UAP's together with its grab-bag of more unpalatable tripe. Renewables have done nothing on emissions in Germany or SA while raising costs to consumers enormously, and the grid-storage options would propel costs even higher.

How Shorten gets away without costing his energy policy is scandalous. His kid-glove treatment on this by the ABC stands in stark contrast to the went it goes hell for leather at Morrison tonight.

Luciferase,
>Renewables have done nothing on emissions in Germany or SA
I could see why this could be the case for Germany, as their abandonment of nuclear power counteracted the benefits of moving to renewables. But where did you get the idea that the same was true for SA? Considering the state no longer generates power from coal, it's an extraordinary claim, yet you've supplied no evidence at all.

>while raising costs to consumers enormously,
Yet when the cost is broken down, very little of it is attributable to renewables. It has more to do with higher gas prices, higher profits and inefficient provision of more poles and wires.

>and the grid-storage options would propel costs even higher.
As it would supply more electricity when it's needed most, bringing down the wholesale price, it's likely the reverse is true.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-election-2019/independent-mp-kerryn-phelps-seeks-police-probe-into-very-disturbing-emails-20190506-p51ko6.html
Could have posted this link in three threads
But think it belongs here,it highlights a hatred, a bias, but a fall in this country's politics
The two posts above talk of policy, we all should
But we must be honest, elections post Russian trolls/Trump, are filthy things
And it seems to me, sometimes those spreading the hate/lies/fake news are Chickens in the service of the Fox
They will be,the first victims of any victory their leader has

Aidan, why don't you admit that the reason Germany is now reticulating for Russian gas and builds coal mines and plants is because grid-storage is just not remotely in the feasibility picture and 100% fossil-fueled backup contingency is needed 24/7/365. This is on top of its extension cords to French nuclear (how hypocritically anti-nuclear, eh?) and Nordic hydro. What a boondoggled fandango is Energiewende, and Oz now looks set to follow the same path, ttps://tinyurl.com/yyrctcyv

Had to lol when on Q&A the Shifty Shyster says industry is ahead of the curve on renewables and is voting with its feet. Nup, it's voting with its wallet while gov't bends over backwards with subsidies and other support.

Even if nuclear power was free and wasteless there'd be opposition.

Cheap, abundant energy will help to solve environmental problems and repair the earth as much as would reducing humanity's footprint trough de-population and de-industrialization. Some think we are a blight on the planet and the latter course is best. That's the distinct difference between neo-Malthusian's and Ecomodernists.

Affluence is the best population control and, through cheap energy, will level out population and create a better, more peaceful world. This is the message that goes in tandem with the simple emissions equation.

That was http://tinyurl.com/yyrctcyv