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Posted by Belly, Saturday, 13 April 2019 12:30:02 PM
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Whoa there folks.
Look I actually have a bit of time for Israel Folau, especially after he condemned Hillsong and Brian Huston for preaching a false doctrine namely the prosperity gospel. But this is not so much about free speech but rather someone's right to withdraw their custom of a commodity. Professional rugby is selling a commodity and are those who advertise through it. I think it is a hard call to accuse those of withdrawing their custom from these commodities as attacking free speech. Then it comes down to a perception by the league and the advertisers of what damage to their brand will result from their continuing with such a controversial player. Those sums have been done and so Israel has been shown the door. An equivalent situation is the National Anthem protests in the US involving most particularly quarterback Colin Kaepernick. He has been effectively shut out of the NFL for the stance he has taken. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._national_anthem_protests_(2016%E2%80%93present) The reason this has not been fully prosecuted given the free speech laws in the US, which are far stronger than ours, is because of the economic/contractual relationship between players and owners. None of the owners are obliged to buy what Kaepernick was selling. There are those on this forum who will defend those owners, particularly because they were backed by strong rhetoric from Trump, but they can't have it both ways. Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 13 April 2019 12:31:31 PM
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No Foxy.
Rugby is at fault for accepting money from Qantas with obvious strings attached. That is the sin, first by Qantas for allowing the sexuality of it's senior executive to override the best interests of the company, & then the greed of the codes executives to accept that restriction to get the money. It is totally disgusting that first Qantas is under such control, & second a football code management would kowtow to Qantas for the dollars it offers. How long do you think it will be before Qantas & other such organisations will have gangs marauding the countryside removing bibles from libraries, churches & the like, because they don't like the ethics of a more moral age? Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 13 April 2019 12:39:38 PM
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Dear Hasbeen,
We voted as a nation to recognise gay marriage, this is not a fringe perspective. Further I have certainly withdrawn my custom from companies sponsoring certain organisations. What you need to do is to stop flying Qantas and get others to do the same and see if the weight of it will get them to change their mind. Good luck. Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 13 April 2019 12:54:18 PM
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Steele,
"We voted as a nation to recognise gay marriage, this is not a fringe perspective." No, we didn't, what was held was a postal opinion poll. Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 13 April 2019 1:03:55 PM
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Belly, "Hasbeens description of the game and its players is a little of target
They call it the game they play in heaven Its players largely, are the sons of cow cockys and the high paid legal profession union students too even university has teams Tweed Jackets, elbows with the usual leather patch". Yes it was once. Back in the mid 50s I actually played for a country team against the touring All blacks. We were mostly a team such as you mention. It even contain 3 of us school boys, as so few had ever played Union in the bush. You can imagine how good we were. We played brilliantly actually. Yes they beat us, but only 103 to 9. Today such an Oz team would be mostly islanders, with very few leather patches to be seen. A pommy mate once told me that soccer was a gentlemen's game played by thugs, & union was a thugs game played by gentlemen. Fits your description of years ago. I don't remember their 6'3", 15 stone Olympic runner winger being too gentlemanly as he ran over the top of me for the 5Th or 6Th time. Still he was very friendly after the game. Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 13 April 2019 1:22:13 PM
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NOW before my ALP mates get involved [back a winner?]
The year Keiting was defeated a NSW wide meeting of all ALP members and the public if they wished was held
Mine was in Taree
John Dela Bosoca, a good man with a problem not his,
Asked this question
Why did Labor get beaten
Solid lifelong members of my party near to a man/woman said
We reject and want an end to political correctness, we still do