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Julian Assange Arrest

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Assange and his Wikileaks (Western-secrets-leaking-factory http://wikileaks.org/ ) is hereby congratulated by Putin

in its concentration on information to embarrass the Western democracies in which we live.

This has freed up an ever grateful Putin to kill Russian opposition figures and other Enemies of the Russian State unquestioned by Wikileaks.
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 12 April 2019 4:46:35 PM
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Is it possible that the US won't even bother to try to extradite what's-his-name to the US ?

After all, the assistance that Wikileaks - "I love Wikileaks !" - may or may not have given to Trump (not to mention the similarities in sexual preferences between WHN and the other one) might complicate the new witch-hunt investigations into the Mueller witch-hunt investigations.

One could even suspect, in the interests in a good conspiracy theory, that Mueller and the Ecuadorians are acting in league to deliberately embarrass Trump and force his tiny hand. Communist bastards.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Friday, 12 April 2019 5:33:18 PM
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Hey Foxy,

"On what grounds would they have for imprisonment?"

I'm honestly not sure what charges they intend to lay against him;

But I did hear he might be in trouble (if he did it) for helping Bradley Manning try to gain unauthorised access to a US govt website.

[As a side note, I'm sure that's what he did as a kid in the 'Julian Assange' mini-series they aired on TV some years back]

There's lots of things I don't know.

I don't know if he's in trouble for releasing classified material;
I don't know if he's going to be considered a 'journalist' or not - without any recognised 'journalistic' qualifications;
(They may try to argue this aspect)
However;
The first amendment does not place any stipulations on what constitutes 'the free press'
- it doesn't stipulate that one must have recognised qualifications.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

I don't actually know if the rights in the US constitution are afforded to non-US citizens.
(You made a valid point re: treason too btw)

What probably is noteworthy is United Nations Declaration of Human Rights;
https://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/

"Whereas disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people"

It's interesting to note what James Clapper says here:
Comparing Wikileaks to The New York Times or Washington Post.
(Really though, they're just controlled corporate media)
http://youtu.be/Mrpq_GGxcnw

Also, what Jesse Ventura says here:
http://youtu.be/Np_QWiEtzkI

He's sticking up for Assange, reminding everyone that what he originally did was expose government war crimes and stressing the VERY VALID point that he not likely to get a fair trial once extradited to the US.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 12 April 2019 7:31:43 PM
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AC,

All too confusing for me I'm afraid.

I just don't see what right the US has
to extradite him to the US.

What would happen I wonder if Assange was to hop
on a plane back to Oz. Does he have a passport?
And can the British hand him over to the US?
What are all these legal implications?

Just don't know.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 12 April 2019 7:39:13 PM
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Foxy,

"Why on earth does the US want to extradite a non-citizen
on some computer hacking charges -
I can't understand."

Embarrassment, for starters.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 12 April 2019 9:05:22 PM
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Le Foxy

"What would happen I wonder if Assange was to hop on a plane back to Oz."

I'm sure the Australian media would love him. Many well-heeled ladies from around the world would also lay him.

Even members of the US and UK press would fly all the way to our rather quaint isle to have a royal audience with him.

But the Australian Government, be it Labor or Coalition, would loathe Julian as a drama Queen irritant. Even more than the crazed (fake) redhead, Pauline Hanson.

And don't forget that from the Ecuadorian Embassy, London, Julian tried to stand for the Australian Senate a while back!

Jules might stand again, from within Australia, and This Time Succeed! in getting into the Senate AND have the balance of power.

AND he would remain Generalissomo of an over-active Wikileaks-Russia International. Popular with Trumpy :)

Might Julian become Prime Minister?

There is no predicting what damage Jules may reap :(}
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 12 April 2019 9:13:22 PM
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