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The Cost Of Communism and Socialism

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To Belly- I've just noticed in your posts you seem to have a "spacial visual" psychology- there's nothing wrong with that. For this type of personality it's perhaps necessary to translate the verbal or written into pictures to interpret them. When people with such a psychology read I suggest reading a text many times picking up textual cues to build up a picture by drawing an explosion diagram between the related concepts. There are many little tricks to digest written material- I'm not an expert
Posted by Canem Malum, Monday, 18 March 2019 7:24:06 AM
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CM,

Both 'Left' and Right are very broad churches: I would regard both Foxy and myself as being on the Left-of-Centre, but certainly not Communist or Utopian: in our different ways, we've had too much negative experience of that ghastly disaster, plus enough common-sense to learn from history. Anti-Communist Left and pro-democratic, if you like.

And on the Right, I'm sure you would agree that not all right-wingers are as Fascist-Right as Tarrant or Islamists (yes, both are right-wing, both are fascist and perhaps mirror-images of each other, feeding off each other, in a grotesque way working together).

In this particular case, a Right-wing terrorist has murdered at least fifty innocent people. Can you say that without some sort of humming and ha-ing ? "A terrorist murdered at least fifty innocent people."

Yes, Islamist fascists have murdered vast numbers of fellow-Muslims, non-Muslims, Yazidis, Kurds, Copts, other Christians, innocent people by the thousands. But one crime does not justify the other, although fascist-extremists on both sides will happily now use this crime to justify further crimes of their own.

And for god's sake, can people please try to distinguish between immigrants and refugees ? Australia has an immigration policy, a rough quota of 180,000; and a refugee policy, with a quota of roughly twenty thousand. They are not identical. Then, of course, there are legal as well as illegal refugees.

Given the vast numbers of desperate people classed as refuges around the world, nearly seventy million, I'm fully in support of raising the LEGAL refugee quota, but totally opposed to ILLEGAL refugees taking their places, and pushing them down the queue., to wait for years more in some god-forsaken desert camp at the mercy of all manner of criminal gangs.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 18 March 2019 9:34:06 AM
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Dear Joe,

We're told by political commentators that there's
a white nationalist movement that is spreading
world wide pushing lone-wolf attacks. The live-
streamed massacre of now 50 in New Zealand mosques
underlines the reach of the movement that preaches
imagined "European ideal," rejects immigration,
and shares vicious threats and attacks over the
internet. We have people like Mr Anning that
are examples of this type of thinking as well as
so many on this forum.

It should come as no surprise to anyone considering
the history of this country. The following link
explains:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/17/australians-are-asking-how-did-we-get-here-well-islamophobia-is-practically-enshrined-as-public-policy
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 18 March 2019 10:00:00 AM
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imagined "European ideal," rejects immigration,
Foxy,
Your attempts to misconstrue are becoming just a tad too sickening.
No others have taken in more migrants & refugees than the Europeans in Europe, America & Australia/NZ. They still do although because of some migrants' agenda this is gradually changing but not because of European ideal !
Even your own family is one of invaders to use your own implying when it comes to others. Tell us of one (1) just one single non-European country that has taken in refugees on compassionate grounds.
Just slow down with your hate of Caucasions, will you ?
Posted by individual, Monday, 18 March 2019 11:34:37 AM
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cont'd ...

Dear Joe,

BTW - I forgot to add that it was me who raised the
topic for discussion on the forum of -

" Is Marxism still a powerful totem of evil in 2019?"

in late December 2018. It got more than 100 responses
and the results as shown from the posts was - yes.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 18 March 2019 11:38:05 AM
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Truth is the two mentioned causes do not truly exist in numbers big enough to win one seat in the lower house
The cost of right wing groups, to our harmony and very way of life is far bigger than both
After Trump falls, and he will, will the extreme right few here see they got it wrong
Not likely we can however hope
Posted by Belly, Monday, 18 March 2019 11:43:53 AM
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