A policy like this could ensure a losing Liberal party a victory.

Labor's plans to almost double Australia's refugee intake will cost more than $6billion over the next decade.

The Opposition aims to increase the government-funded humanitarian intake from 17,750 to 27,000 a year in 2025-2026, a number expanded to 32,000 under a revised policy announced at Labor's 2018 national conference.

The plans would also include an increase in the community refugee program from 1,000 to 5,000 spots a year.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison described the policy as a 'betrayal', and said the current program was already the best in the world.

'The great risk here is that it will cost taxpayers $6bn and put at risk the services already ­experiencing pressure under the current program,' he told The Australian.

Finance Minister Mathias Cormann also slammed the plan for diverting funds away from drought-affected farmers.

Senator Cormann said Australia was already one of the most generous countries on earth in terms of welcoming genuine refugees.

The minister accused Bill Shorten's party of standing in the way of the government's drought relief fund - which will provide grants totalling $100 million a year from 2020.

'Our Drought Future Fund would grow to $5 billion over that same period Bill Shorten wants to spend more than $6 billion on further increasing our refugee program,' he said.

'He (Bill Shorten) is standing in the way of $100 million a year in additional funding to drought proof communities across Australia.

'Labor has got its priorities wrong.'

Australia's Humanitarian Program had already increased to 18,750 for 2018-19 - it's largest in 30 years, he added.

The first five years of a Labor government would also see funding to the United Nations' refugee agency increase 20-fold from $25million to $500million.

Figures from 2015-16 show that of those asylum seekers accepted into Australia, about 6,730 were refugees, 5,032 were special humanitarian entrants and 1,227 were women deemed to be at risk.

Australia settles more refugees per capita than other first-world countries, including the United Kingdom, the United States and New Zealand.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6782349/Labor-plans-increase-refugee-intake-17-750-27-000-six-years.html

27000 in a country of 25000000!
Hardly a flood or an invasion is it? Hardly even a drop in the ocean.
Pretty weak attempt at scaremongering I think.
Fear is all the liars have left. And didnt that do so well in Victoria recently hahahahaha

Labour will find a million ways to waste money in order to win votes and keep unions happy. The Liberals are only slightly better.

runner,

Look at the money that our Prime Minister is
suddenly throwing around at everything.
This always happen with the Liberals prior to elections.
They think voters are stupid - but not this time.

Happen to agree with you Foxy. Liberals are trying to buy back the election. Labour however will be complete economic vandals as they were last time in power. They are talking about giving women fleeing 'domestic violence' $10000 to escape. What an idiotic policy that will be totally abused like every other handout the Government gives. Unfortuntaley both Liberal and Labour are wedded to having more and more people breastfed by Government. They have learn't nothing from other socialist experiments and disasters.

mikk, When a lot do not want to learn English therefore can't be employed, others want everything given to them without having to contribute to Australia.

Now if the people who came were employable in positions that needed more people that would be different.

Don't forget the over many thousands who had been here over 5 years and a very high percentage were still on welfare for that whole period and beyond.

runner both parties are in voter buying mode, as well as the Greens.

yes Phillip sickening that they are into appealing to so called entitlements. The Greens are economically illiterate and socially perverted.

runner,

Julian Burnside Q.C. is running on the "Greens"ticket
against Josh Frydenberg in the safe Liberal seat
of Kooyong here in Melbourne. Mr Burnside is such
a capable and talented man. It's going to be a
great match to see who wins.

I like Paulines policy.

Immigrants on Centrelink will have to learn English within 18 months or they will lose their benefits under radical new plan.

Pauline Hanson's One Nation party has released a new policy requiring new arrivals to develop their language skills if they want to keep their Centrelink unemployment benefits.

Failing to learn English within 18 months would see an immigrant deprived of $550 a fortnight in Newstart payments.

One Nation's News South Wales leader Mark Latham said immigrants who failed to learn English after 18 months needed to lose their welfare benefits to tackle 'ethnic enclaves'.

'Unless you have an incentive, people will continue down the current path which is a disaster for Australia,' he told Daily Mail Australia on Friday.

Across Australia, 820,000 people spoke little or no English, the 2016 Census showed.

'It's a startling insight into how divided and segregated our society's been,' Mr Latham said.

Mr Latham said his area of outer Sydney had become more segregated.

'I've seen changes in western Sydney in the last 10 years that I never thought I'd see, and a lot of it is based around welfare dependency and non-English speaking ethnic enclaves,' he said.

'It's a product of low-skill migration, it's a product of certain ethnic groups that congregate in the ethnic enclaves.'

Mr Latham said 18 months was long enough to give someone to learn English.

'To get a job, it helps to speak English,' he said.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6784719/One-Nation-wants-immigrants-stripped-welfare-18-months-fail-learn-English.html

How many people living in this country actually
speak, read and write English well?
I would bet that many new arrivals would give the locals
a run for their money.

Julian Burnside Foxy, is a show pony, who has never ever in his life done anything good for the majority of the Australian people.

Meanwhile I don't think Mark Latham was speaking about people who speak English in what you may consider well, but the 820,000 who don't speak it well enough to be able to
1/Get a job,
2/ support themselves,
3/ get off the back of the hundreds of thousands of people who are having enough trouble supporting themselves, with out having a load of freeloaders on their back.

This thread has decided my criteria for the next election. I will vote for the party or individual supporting a large reduction in immigration, particularly useless refugees.

Pretty weak attempt at scaremongering I think.
mikk,
I think you should let horses do the thinking, they got a bigger head. You're obviously blind to what's going on.
Stop thinking & start looking ! You might understand then.

'Julian Burnside Q.C. is running on the "Greens"ticket
against Josh Frydenberg in the safe Liberal seat
of Kooyong here in Melbourne.'

yes Foxy very much an abc luvvie and certainly part of the swamp.

We shouldn't allow immigrants neither skilled or refugees - they need to fix the problems in their own countries. We need to reduce population in the world. Pollution, Environmental Damage, Extinction Rates in species and human tribes would be reduced if there was lower population. There are wars over fresh water and oil. People would be more valued too. People need to be rewarded for good behavior- or as Ayn Rand said there is the philosophy of life and death.

What a stunt it was reopening Christmas Island detention centre. It shows this desperate government will spare no (taxpayer) expense in its futile attempts to win votes. What a joke it was to see Scum O' again at great (taxpayer) expense "inspecting" the installation. I would not have been a bit surprised if Scum O' had not turned up in battle fatigues looking like some Colonel Klink character to inspect the local militia in the trenches behind the sandbags. And with the voice of authority Colonel Scum O' could have given a pep talk to the lads; "Keep a sharp lookout men, the Injins are just over the horizen, they're on their way! I expect every last man to do his duty!"...."bye, bye, men, I gota fly." so said the 'Brickwall'.

So arrogant has the dingbat Left become that they think that anything with a pulse can roll a sitting Liberal member. While the Liberals don't deserve to be reelected, most people have never heard of the Australia-hating elitist, Julian Burnside, who looked like a fish out of water, strolling among real people yesterday; and what about another lawyer and elitist unknown outside the Olympic skiing circle. Now, there's person and group really at one with the plebs!

The Left has been carried away by the Phelps aberration, another one who is not used to public service, only into the elitist AMA, other woman and illegals on Nauru. She has wrecked our border security, and has thus far shown no interest in Australia or the Australians paying her. The fact that she received fewer primary votes than the Liberal candidate doesn't look too good for her chances at the real election, particularly when most of the burghers of Wentworth will have recovered from their hissy fit over Malky, who is now showing what a childish prick he really is.

These oh-so-smug Reds would do well to remember that Hilary Clinton was a shoo in for POTUS, and that Donald Trump was just a joke popular only with rednecks.

Dear Hassie,

Migrants who have come to this country have always
been able to find jobs, educate their children,
and contribute. Many have
set up businesses and provided employment for others.
The biggest dole bludgers have been the locals.
So blaming asylum seekers for things is just plain wrong.
The growth of this country has been built on migration and
the contribution of migrants.

Part of the current Liberal tactics of scare-mongering
doesn't work for most people. And, by the way - migrants
learn to speak English. Many of whom end up
speaking better than the locals - and some end up in
professions teaching the locals. When English-speakers
travel overseas they expect the locals to speak English
and understand them. Few make the effort to learn some
of the languages of the countries they visit. This is
noticeable - on TV programs.

runner,

It's rather a blinkered view that you and some others
seem to have of Julian Burnside, and you seem to judge
the man not by his actions but are influenced by bias
and politics. The man was awarded the Sydney Peace
Prize in 2014 and he was made an Officer of the Order
of Australia in 2009. He's a human rights and refugee
advocate, a barrister, an author. He's provided legal
counsel in a wide variety of high-profile legal cases.
Judge him by
his work, not what you read in NewsCorp.

In that case Foxy, he must be very far left & a serious hater of Australia.

The very last type we want in our parliament.

Foxy,
If you think that immigrants and foreigners speak better English than Aussies then I wish you would tell Telstra. None of their telephonists cannot speak understandable English. The only communication company that employs people that cannot communicate.

I must admit though that schools seem to have dropped English. Maybe the problem is those silly phone things the kids have.

HenryL.,

Telstra's headquarters are in the Phillipines.

Dear Hassie,

On the contrary - Julian Burnside works the machinery
of our liberal democratic way of life. He tries to
lead public opinion and transmute it into laws that
shape our society and our country. He's exactly the
type we not only want but need in our parliament.

We should not succumb to the siren calls of demagogues,
charlatans, and ideologues like Clive Palmer, Mark Latham,
and others.

Foxy,
Telstra's headquarters are in the Australia.
Telstra's call centres are in the Phillipines.
The scammers who claim to work for Telstra also claim to be working in a call centre in North Sydney. Both those claims are made with an Indian accent...

Dear Aidan,

Yes I know. I've had a very bad experience with scammers.
When ringing Telstra you get either an Indian accent
(hence the success of scammers) or an American from the
Phillipines (they're the ones dealing with problems).
Hence the complaints of not being able to understand
from the locals. Rarely do you ever get an Aussie or
English accent.

Foxy Quote "Migrants who have come to this country have always
been able to find jobs,"

There is a difference between migrants who came here looking for work and what Shorten want to load the country with which are asylum seekers who generally are of low education can't speak English and want taxpayer to support them for life.

So in future stick to the subject and don't try to change it from asylum seekers to migrants.

Philips S.,

Nonsense. We have had so many famous refugees
and asylum seekers, as well as migrants of
course, who have contributed to this country
so richly and still are. People like -
Dr Al Muderis, Majak Daw, Najeeba Wazefadost,
Osamah Sami, Tan le, Behrouz Boochani, and
many more. There's also those from the past - who came as
refugees including - Les Murray, Frank Lowy, Judy
Cassab, Harry Triguboff, Karl Kruszelnicki,
Anh Duo, and of course my own family.

These people gave and are giving much, much more than
they've ever received from any Australian government.
And they'll continue to do so. To say that they want to
be supported for life by the government is rubbish.
All asylum seekers want is a chance to work, live,
and be able to contribute. It's the ruthless politics
and a cruel and unjust imprisonment that's currently stopping
them.

Foxy Get it through your biased head this thread is asylum seekers.

As for nonsense Quote "Nonsense. We have had so many famous refugees
and asylum seekers,"

During Dudd and Dillard over 50,000 and you come back with This "Dr Al Muderis, Majak Daw, Najeeba Wazefadost, Osamah Sami, Tan le, Behrouz Boochani," six people if that is your version of "so many" you have just lost the plot.

I counter with six refugee criminals and raise you with 29 more refugee criminals. If I included the Sudanese, Africans it would be game over with hundreds more.
Nur Islam set fire to the Springvale branch of the Commonwealth Bank in 2016, a refugee from Myanmar

Thwang Za Lian, 24, and Kapling Hlawnceu, 21, refugees from Myanmar pleaded guilty to raping a woman who was sleeping rough under a bridge in Melbourne

Sam David Gordon, 43 a Vietnamese refugee who claimed more than $23,000 of welfare payments he wasn't entitled to is guilty of defrauding Centrelink .

Omid Nikkheslat, Asylum seeker who was a soldier in Iran before illegally sneaking into Australia uses a 'Terminator 2-style weapon' to shoot his terrified victim in the back during home invasion

Patrick Nweke, Nigerian asylum seeker, 44, cons a US pensioner out of $400k in romance scams before convincing him to import 2.5kg of cocaine into Australia - all while he was locked up at Villawood Detention Centre

Emran Dad, 27, refugee from Afghanistan. has pleaded guilty to having sex with a vulnerable 13-year-old girl

Ali Maleki and Yosra Rabieh Iranian refugees busted flooding the streets of Sydney with ice' - as police seize 36 kilograms of the deadly drug, $260,000 cash and three luxury cars

ALI JAFFARI 6 counts of indecent acts with a child under 16 and one count of attempt to commit an indecent act..Jaffari who came to Australia three years ago as a Afghan immigrant/ refugee.

Alimadad Mokhtari Afghan asylum seeker, 42, who made car noises as he brutally raped a backpacker, 23, during horrific six hour ordeal is jailed for seven years

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Omid Roshan, 21, an Afghan asylum-seeker accused of abducting and raping a nine-year-old boy.

Lebanese asylum seeker has been charged with making a bomb threat on a plane taking him from Perth to the Christmas Island detention centre.

Asylum seeker who arrived at Christmas Island in 2012 was wanted in Egypt for premeditated murder, possession of weapons and explosives and destruction of property.

Sixteen men accused of rioting at Sydney's Villawood detention centre in 2011 caused $9 million worth of damage to buildings

News flash Phil, when you have a group of say 50,000 people, be they refugees, or the entire population Gladstone Queensland, a random pick, nothing against the people of Gladstone. Some are going to be real low life scum buckets, as there are going to be some truly exemplary people among the 50,000 as well.
For argument sake we can find 1,000 of each group, your bias seems to want to tar the 48,000 in between with the same brush as the bottom 1,000 low life's, in fact you want to treat all 50,000 as guilty of the sins of that bottom 1,000.

Phil as a refugee hater you are always looking for reasons why on the whole they should not be in Australia, crime is only one reason you put up, you have others.

Paul1405 Hope you did not spend too much time composing you dribble it was directed at Foxy and her comment, not the resident troll.

Philip S.,

I fully support what Paul has said.

We can take any national group who came to
this country as refugees or asylum seekers and we
will find criminals amongst them. But we
shall also find that the majority of them just want to
live, work, raise their families and contribute. And
as history has shown most of them have done just that.

This country was initially a penal colony - take a look
at its tumultuous history before you point the finger at asylum
seekers. Also take a look at this countries criminal past.
It's very revealing. Yet also look at the people who have made
it great and continue to do so. That's also revealing.

You're sounding hysterical in your posts telling me what
I should concentrate on. Why look only at the
negative instead of the positive of any
issue. Which is very limiting and narrow.
All I get from you is - your preference for conformity,
intolerance and insecurity. I expected more from you.
You attitude is very off-putting.

cont'd ...

Philip S.,

You accuse me of bias?

Bias/prejudice is a learned trait. You're not
born biased/prejudiced. You're taught it.
And from your continued posts - you've been
taught well.

Foxy "I fully support what Paul has said."

If you fully support him you are as senile as he is, as what he suggests except 1 are the headlines of the author or words of the author so he has nothing, just like usual.

** To fully support someone means every word he says, next time use your brain and pick out something or you will be tarred with the same brush as he is.**

As I said before why do you suck up to him, at least Belly has to a large extent stopped, only to be replaced by you.

Quote "Why look only at the negative instead of the positive of any
issue."

** When the negative has caused irreparable damage to a country only a fool ignores that. **

** Yes I am biased against importing welfare for lifers, freeloaders and criminals and proud of it, so by contrast you think filling the country with them is a good thing. Also against giving more benefits to people than we give to our own people thus creating a magnet to anyone who desires to be a economic refugee. **

So under your description I have been taught well but that makes you illiterate by the description.

Philip S.,

I can't argue with your logic.

Enjoy your gruntelment.

cont'd ...

I should have said enjoy your disgruntlement.
Because I can see that as P. G. Wodehouse would
say -
"I can see that you're actually disgruntled."

Foxy I wrote "So under your description I have been taught well but that makes you illiterate by the description."

You reply quote "I can't argue with your logic."

I rest my case.

This will really help people vote Labor - not.

Hundreds of riot police swarm Melbourne's CBD as 'rival African and Pacific Islander gangs' clash after family-orientated Moomba Festival

African and Pacific Islander teenage gangs went to war in Melbourne on Saturday night.

Witnesses watched on in horror as hundreds of riot squad officers were forced to use capsicum spray and batons to break up a series of organised brawls across the city.

One man likened the scenes to 'something out of Braveheart', claiming officers could do little but watch on as the clashing groups fought outside Flinders Street Station.

'I saw about 5 massive clashes, with the Islanders coming out on top in all of them. Pound for Pound they were formidable and unstoppable,' he wrote online.

'They would charge at each other randomly. Like something out of Braveheart.'

Dramatic footage posted online showed over a dozen teenagers sprinting down a set of escalators at Flinders Street station.

They appeared to corner a smaller group of boys and lay into them with flying kicks and punches as others encouraged them on from a distance.

Just two minutes up the road at St Paul's Cathedral, dozens of young men and women watched on as a topless man threw punches at the crowd.

Police arrested five people following three separate incidents, which they believe were all linked.

The organised street brawls started from 10pm and carried through until 2am on Sunday night, police confirmed.

The brawls followed Melbourne's notorious Moomba Festival, a three-day free family event run by the council.

Moomba Festival has been spoiled by youth gang violence for the past four years.
____________________________________________
Three people were arrested for assault and two others for drunken behaviour.

A further two penalty notices were also issued, one for riotous behaviour and one for weapons offences.

** So the night will go down as 3 assaults, 2 drunks and 1 for weapons, 1 for riot. No wonder they have such low crime statistics. **

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6791517/Hundreds-police-swarm-Melbournes-CBD-ethnic-groups-clash.html

Paul1405 will say it is fake because it is in the dailymail, too bad others have it as well.

Labor keep giving gifts to the Liberals.

"ACTU national secretary Sally McManus has argued for months for a minimum wage that is 60 per cent of the median wage, a stance that would lift the weekly base rate from $695 to $852."

That is one way to get big business to give lots of money to the Liberals.

And they are going to need lots of money, while they look for another job! Today's 'Newspoll' has Labor increasing its lead to 54/46 over the wombats. The $2,000 per minute stunt, at taxpayers expense, of the Scum O' junket to Christmas Island shows how out of touch, and desperate this government is.

Scum O'...stop torturing yourself and call the election now!

Paul1405,
A competent manipulator is preferable to an incompetent do-gooder in a managing position !
Labor have proven beyond reasonable doubt over the decades that throwing away other peoples' money only works temporarily & only benefits a selected few !

Individual,

You're absolutely right.

Under the Liberals in Victoria we had the closure of
railways, schools, hospitals, mental institutions,
and more. Cuts, cuts, everywhere.
But hey we got "jobs for the boys," more CEOS in
government departments than were needed, we got the
"Grand Prix," and the Casino - who could want more?
Labor had to fix things. Then we got the scare-mongering
at the last election - and guess who got re-elected?
Labor!

The Greens contribution, Paul and Foxy how many will you sponsor?

This week the Greens announced their refugee policy. It includes allowing private citizens to sponsor refugees as part of its plan to increase Australia’s humanitarian intake by 10,000. In December, Labor also announced plans to increase the existing community sponsored refugee program by up to 5,000 places per year.

Australia’s little-known community support program (CSP) allows individuals, businesses or community organisations to fund and sponsor the travel and resettlement of refugees into Australia from overseas.

Australia’s current program began with the community proposal pilot in 2013. This provided 500 places, again from within Australia’s refugee and humanitarian program (which has a capped quota for each financial year). This meant the overall humanitarian intake didn’t increase under the pilot, but the government did save money. Community sponsors covered the cost of existing resettlement places for the first year as well as paying significant visa fees.

** That scheme is a joke if the refugee needs major surgery or something else costing lots of money guess who will pay, the taxpayer. **

http://theconversation.com/community-members-should-be-able-to-sponsor-refugees-for-the-right-reasons-not-to-save-the-government-money-112230

Another good policy, its got my vote.

Australians claiming to be Aboriginal will be forced to undergo DNA testing to prove it under a One Nation proposal to crack down on welfare fraud

One Nation's New South Wales leader Mark Latham has taken aim at people who identify as indigenous, when they are not of Aboriginal heritage.

'Everybody hates a welfare rorter, especially in Aboriginal affairs,' he said.

'Australians are sick and tired of seeing people with blonde hair and blue eyes declaring themselves to be indigenous, when clearly they have no recognisable Aboriginal background and are doing it solely to qualify for extra money.'

In Australia, people can identify as indigenous to be given special treatment when applying for jobs in the public service or the ABC, as part of an affirmative action policy designed to promote one minority group.

They also qualify for special benefits, including Abstudy to fund university study or an apprenticeship, and can join an Aboriginal land council.

Mr Latham has proposed a law which would require Aboriginality to be determined by a DNA test showing someone has at least one full-blood Aboriginal grandparent, ending a system where Australians can self-identify as indigenous.

'The system of indigenous self-identification, declaring Aboriginality without any bloodline or DNA proof, has been open to widespread abuse,' he said.

'It is being used as a fraudulent way of cashing in on welfare benefits, special Aboriginal programs and land council largesse.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6792955/Australians-claiming-Aboriginal-forced-undergo-DNA-test-One-Nation-policy.html

Another scandal for the Canberra Wombats. No, its not images of Bonking Barney up on Facebook, doing what he likes to do. No its from ex-Liberal Julia Banks. Julia has revealed before the political assignation of Turnballs she was offer a $50,000 junket to New York as a reward if she would vote for Dud Dutton. The bulling came with a threat that if she didn't support Dud her position on the Liberal ticket was in jeopardy. Julia declined the offer, now she is on the cross bench.

What a hoot! Bonking Barney is now claiming he is the rightful Messiah and not that interloper Mick McKook. According to Barnyard he was elected "The Deputy Prime Minister of Australia", was he, I don't recall any vote being taken to elect the Deputy PM. or the PM for that matter. Maybe Bonking Barney can inform Scum O', he's not the elected Prime Minister, and should resign so Money Bags Malcolm can make a rightful comeback.

Accord to Bonking Barney's Mum, "He is NOT the messiah, he is just a very naughty boy!". what a circus.

Mark Latham has taken aim at people who identify as indigenous, when they are not of Aboriginal heritage.
Philip S,
Not before time either ! Will "Indigenous Australians of the Year" have to hand back their medals once it becomes known they're not indigenous ?

Paul1405 Quote "What a hoot! Bonking Barney is now claiming he is the rightful Messiah and not that interloper Mick McKook. According to Barnyard he was elected "The Deputy Prime Minister of Australia", was he, I don't recall any vote being taken to elect the Deputy PM. or the PM for that matter. Maybe Bonking Barney can inform Scum O', he's not the elected Prime Minister, and should resign so Money Bags Malcolm can make a rightful comeback."

** Please refrain from posting when high on some hallucinogenic substance. **

individual, Remarkable how many fake indigenous people we have now.

Notice Paul1405 did not touch the article.

Dear Paul,

I watched "60 Minutes"last night with
Pauline Hanson and Mark Latham as guests.
They're a perfect match. Both are very
talented in provoking outrage - which made
their joining forces almost inevitable.
Lol.

Phil, not interested in what the fascists Lunatic Latham has to say. Did you put something up from your bible, the UK Daily Horror? What about if anyone claiming Aboriginality be made to have a boomerang sown on to their clothing for easy identification. You would be into that would you not. We could do a similar thing with all those other minorities you and Latham like to hate.

To think Lunatic Latham once thought he could be Prime Minister, now he wants to join the NSW Reichstag as a representative of the Extreme Party, what a come down!

The venomous lefties are getting snakey again if only they bit their forked tongue !

Paul1405 Still wearing a bib at your advanced age I surmise that by the amount of dribble from you.

As usual you can't comment on the subject so attack the author.

Phil, all I see is this dysfunctional Coalition scoring own goals. That is reflected in the latest opinion polls, 50 losses in a row for the Wombats. If they were a football team they would be relegated to tenth division where they belong.

Poor Mark Latham has shown himself to be unhinged, needs psychiatric help. I can't help him with that.

If there are Australians of British heritage that are having difficulties staying in the workforce we need to be helping them rather than marginalising them further by bringing in competition for low paying jobs.

Why single out only those of British heritage
to help? Or are they the only ones having difficulties
getting jobs in this country? Why is that? Don't
others have that problem? Why not?

What are you proposing Canem Malum, a sign at the employment office which reads, wops, spicks, dagoes and assorted what not's to the back of the queue, fine British stock step forward.
Which group are you a member of?

In the fifties most of the people in Australia were British Australians. Since the fifties certain organizations and individuals have decided that it was in their best interest to bring in foreign workers rather than use the labour source in Australia. Perhaps they didn't forsee the long term consequences of this policy- perhaps this policy was implemented without a mandate. I would argue that this policy was not in the interests of the resident population / culture of the British Cultural residents. I believe that Australia being a creation of Britain is effectively the property of the British Culture hence British Australians. So people of other cultures present a conflict of principles for both British Australians and those that have arrived from other places.

As the Dalai Lama says "Europe is for the Europeans" not for the refugees or the immigrants.

A problem with the "contemporary nation concept" is the nation is seen as a business and tends to disregard the vested interest of the culture. While it is true that every entity needs to "balance the books" there are other principles that perhaps take precedence- for example where there is a conflict between the needs of finance and that of the "stability of the culture".

To me the work of Foxy's relatives were unwanted when considering the cost of the stability of the Australian British Culture.

But I can still appreciate Foxy's admiration for her migrated ancestors and their sacrifices just as I appreciate the sacrifices of my British ancestors. I'm sure both of us will try to hang on to the property we believe is ours.

I suspect we've lost the balance of the principles.

Independent of who is "right" I'm sure that the world would be more peaceful with less people. Then maybe we can both get what we want.

The great thing about sacrifices is if you can get the other party to make the sacrifice you win...

Early migrants wanted a better existence, the latest waves just want an easy life by way of a free ride.
Those who apply & pay many thousands of Dollars get rejected & lose their money whilst the free loaders get just about everything provided.
All thanks to the Labor content in the Public Service !

//In the fifties most of the people in Australia were British Australians// some of the fuddy-duddy brigade on here are sill in the fifties, the 1850's.

//All thanks to the Labor content in the Public Service!// More floggings required of Public Servants, but not the ones who pay you an undeserved fat pension every fortnight. Right Indy?

Paul1405,
yep, especially the parasitic types you appear to include yourself with !

Canem Malum,

My family were invited to come to Australia by
the then Australian Government. My family were
Refugees. Displaced persons as a result of the
communist takeover of their country during WWII.

Their initial two-year contracts were the first
major contribution to Australia. They helped to solve
an acute labour shortage in Australia, especially in
outlying areas. They joined other refugees in the
rebuilding of Australia's capital structures that
wee to serve the nation for many decades to come.

Many of these refugees established building companies, new
factories, retail shops, service and repair centres
but I won't go into more details. Suffice to say - they
worked hard, raised their families, asked for nothing,
were fiercely independent, and contributed to this
country. Their children and grand-children have done
the same.

cont'd ...

Canem Malum,

Just a small question - if You're so proud of your
British ancestry - why did you choose a moniker
such as "Canem Malum" instead of something more
British such as "Rule Britannia?"

Just asking.

Watching ABC reports coming out of New Zealand, gunmen have attacked Mosques in Christchurch with reportedly automatic weapons . One unconfirmed report from the NZ Herald 27 dead, 4 people in custody, 3 men and one woman. IED's found in cars, Christchurch is in lock down.

Just asking.
Foxy,
Maybe yours should be Weasel ?

Individual,

No. I prefer "Sunflower." I always end up
facing the sun but I go throw a lot of
dirt to find my way there.

I think for you "mushroom"would suit.
You've got all the traits.
"Individual"just isn't you.

British Australian's created Australia from nothing. I will not disrespect their legacy by throwing it away. The entity of Australia is the physical product of generations of effort by British people to create an island of stability in a chaotic world. Most accept the idea that the British people have special friends that we've allowed into our privileged circle- if these special friends are disloyal they or we will be destroyed. I refuse to give away the blood of my ancestors to anyone- let alone global trash who overpopulate and mismanage their own homes then seek somewhere else to destroy.

Sadly the British Australian society is divided- the old and the young are divided, the rich and the poor are divided- the male and the female are divided- the divided fall easily- there are traitors in our midst. The media attacks the old and the wise and the young greedy for status fail to protect them- shameful.

Traitors get a high profit for their betrayal but their destruction is much greater.

We must root out the traitors and destroy them for our survival- they live and grow off our stupidity. Don't give them your money, time, or resources- don't feed the vermin in your house- get a loyal dog and take care of your friend and help them to be the best they can be.

It's easy to believe something when we believe it's in our own interest- dig a little deeper. Society is sick- you need to fix it- go back to basics- your grandparents were wise- power only gets bigger but it needs your complicity.

You need allies- you can be sure your enemies are forming their own alliances against you.

If you don't fight you will die in agony. There are some you will never convert to the cause of life. You only have one home.

Don't allow "thought leaders" to steal your capacity for reason and common sense. You have a mind and you have other people take them and change the world.

It's easier to destroy than create.

Yes it is easier to destroy than create.
History has shown us that very well.

We are all proud of our ancestry. No one
however should have the arrogance to dismiss
the contributions of all people to this
country. Australia was not built by only one
group of people and to say that it was is
simply wrong. Various groups have been
settling here for centuries.

We used to get in our history books that
"The First Fleet arrived. It brought 1000
English convicts" It didn't. It brought
1000 convicts but they came from a dozen
different countries. As somebody stated -
"Ënglish jails were no respecters of
nationality." The first Italian arrived on
January 26, 1788 - Giuseppe Tuso.

There were people from South Africa, there were
people from Ceylon, from India, from Spain,
from Portugal, from Hungary, and so on.

I will not allow some "We're British you know"
arrogant man - to try to demean the contributions
of so many to this country - to which so many
have contributed with their blood, sweat, and
tears.

'I will not allow some "We're British you know"
arrogant man - to try to demean the contributions
of so many to this country'

what if its a black feminist/Marxist Foxy. Whoever brought identity politics to this country should be deported. You don't even try and disguise your hatreds anymore.

runner,

Why don't you attack those who are really spreading hatred -
starting with your mirror.

Foxy said- I will not allow some "We're British you know"
arrogant man - to try to demean the contributions
of so many to this country - to which so many
have contributed with their blood, sweat, and
tears.

Answer-
You seem to be distressed because I'm of British Heritage and a Man and because you believe your contributions and claims are more valid than mine even though you are not British- and even though the British Australian's were kind enough to allow them to use their resources for a while- now you want to replace the people of British Heritage and disenfranchise them- that's an interesting way of showing your appreciation for allowing your ancestors, yourself, your children, and now your grand children to stay as guests. You appear to be the very reason why British Australians need to take great care with immigration. I will not allow my ancestors legacy to be given away to anyone no matter their claims- you might work on my land- but it is my land.

Canem Malum,

A few corrections:

1) No. I am not distress because you are of British heritage.
How could I be? I have family members of British heritage
going back multiple generations in this country.
What distresses me is your attitude - not your heritage.

2) No. I do not believe that my claims are more valid than
yours. I believe they are just as valid. There's a
difference.

3) No. I don't want to replace people of British heritage
and disenfranchise them. That would be biting off my nose
to site my face. You are the only one here talking about
doing that to people not of British ancestry.

4) No. we are not "guests" in this country.
We are Australian citizens.

5) Yes - your ancestors have left all of us a legacy -
that should be acknowledged. No one is denying that.
But my ancestors have also built on that legacy
and have taken Australia out of being a cultural
backwater into the vibrant society that it is today.
That too needs to be acknowledged. You also need
to be reminded that Australia became an independent
nation on 1st January 1901 and achieved complete
independence Mar 3 1986.

6) We don't need your permission to "work on the land."
The land is not yours. Never was. That's why we
acknowledge the original owners at every public ceremony
and event.