Paul1405,
thank you for exposing yourself so unashamedly !

Paul, we all know what you are, what you stand for, we don't really care because you demonstrate over and over to the point of ad-nauseam, your lean to the left.
You refuse to believe that your beloved left has been 'in bed' with the rest of the scum in Canberra for longer than I care to imagine.
As for your comments about my choice of actions in an attempt at righting a most serious and evil wrong, instead of bagging me and my opinion, no, suggestion or comments, where's your brilliant solution to getting rid of the thieves and con-men (and other animals) in Canberra?
What I am promoting is the actions of people who are truly informed and want to see real change and actions being taken, and not like yourself who are simply happy to bag the sh!t out of anyone you consider beneath your status.
Mate there is no-one beneath your status, your about as low as one can go.
If I'm so stupid and your so smart, then YOU tell tell us how to rid ourselves of the scum in Canberra, well actually ALL politicians for that matter.
You bag everyone else on every idea and suggestion, yet you are conspicuously silent in offering even the most subtle of suggestions.
Sorry mate, you can't be taken seriously if you do not 'put up'.
You know the old saying, 'put up or shut up'.

Oh dear Altrav, you want me to offer a solution to your false premise, //no, suggestion or comments, where's your brilliant solution to getting rid of the thieves and con-men (and other animals) in Canberra?// If that statement was true, which I believe is unrealistic, then I would be offering suggestions and comments.

//Paul, we all know what you are, what you stand for, we don't really care because you demonstrate over and over to the point of ad-nauseam, your lean to the left.//

Who are the "we" people, yes I am no phoney fascists. Maybe you are the Queen of England and using the royal singular, I don't know.

//I'm sorry but we desperately need stronger, more decisive action to remove the current filth from the swamp, and I don't mind if physical action is used and terminal outcomes are achieved.//

I must misunderstand you, you are sorry, are you really sorry, sorry for what, you want to chop heads off chooks, but don't want to spill their blood. Interesting, but I don't believe you.

//What I am promoting is the actions of people who are truly informed and want to see real change and actions being taken,//

Where are you promoting this action plan of yours, on this forum among the truly informed, the Indy's and Hassy's. Well done fella, I'll keep that in mind.

//You bag everyone else on every idea and suggestion// Not so, unless you and a couple of the other ratbags are everyone. I could name several posters I often agree with, but that's not you.

Paul, you can add straw man to your CV.
When I say 'I'm sorry', it's because I am sorry I cannot find the words to convince you, and others, of the futility of your beliefs.
The rest of your attempts at 'come backs' are not worthy of consideration as you continue to avoid/evade the proposals I submit.
YOU may find them too confronting.
This only exposes your lack of courage and conviction.
We, 'the people' are being had, no matter what the name of the party, if you can't see that, then you must not engage in conversations about politics.
I believe in positive action, not prolonged conversations.
While you and your mob are doing nothing but talking about doing nothing, we, the rest of the population is getting ripped off.
So yes, I would condone some kind of revolution, if it meant cleaning out the scum.
The example I was once given was that when high profile figures were jailed, nothing changed, as with Alan Bond.
He still ran his business from inside jail, nothing changed.
Why?
Because he was still alive.
Now think for a minute if we still had the death penalty, would we have the same scum attempting the same things they're getting away with right now?

ALTRAV, you said "we", I asked who are you speaking for, and have they given their consent for you to speak on their behalf. Of course not, the use of "we" or everyone, is and old tactic of trying to add strength to your argument, by falsely including others on your side, inclusion of you, at the exclusion of me. You see yourself as part of the whole, whilst I am ostracised and isolated by the body complete.
Then when you can't provide evidence, you simply try to be dismissive with a, I can't be bothered, its not that important etc.

//Now think for a minute if we still had the death penalty, would we have the same scum attempting the same things they're getting away with right now?//
In the context of politics are you talking about a firing squad?

//I believe in positive action, not prolonged conversations.// What positive action have YOU undertaken thus far? If not then you are engaging in prolonged conversations, commonly called piss and wind.

//So yes, I would condone some kind of revolution, if it meant cleaning out the scum.// With that great think tank in your head, surly you can be more specific that "some kind". How long have you been dreaming about the "some kind of revolution"?

You come on here claiming to be some kind of action man, where is your action, man. All in your minds eye me thinks

Special announcement from head nurse at the old folks home: Mr ALTRAV will be performing his hit show 'Some Kind of Revolution' in the Conservatorium this morning at 11.30am, after the morning sleep, this will replace the normal bingo session. All house guests are reminded to take their medication before attending, and if you wear an incontinence pad, be sure and do so, as the show is rather long. Light morning refreshment of tea and scones will be served during the interval, please leave your teeth in for this special treat, and no crumbs on the floor please, we have just vacuumed the Conservatorium.