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Harsher penalties needed for importing food products

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The consequences of FAM for Australia are indeed dire.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-15/foot-and-mouth-disease-detected/10812602

I would include mandatory jail and deportation for non-citizens. Also black listed for travel to Aus forever. Citizens with duel citizenship would have their citizenship removed.

Should stop playing the 'nice guy' in relation to this offence and get really tough. It is not accidental but a deliberate action, there is no excuse.
Posted by HenryL, Friday, 15 February 2019 9:30:11 AM
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HenryL,
All the Govt authorities need to do is to treat shifty foreigners & shifty Australians with the same contempt as they treat their own pensioners & victims of crime !
Posted by individual, Friday, 15 February 2019 11:54:29 AM
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HenryL.,

Parliament has passed measures to make food imports
to Australia safer, with authorities to get new powers
to stop unsafe items at the border.

Legislation cleared Parliament last year - more than
a year after being introduced to Parliament - prompted
by a 2015 hepatitis A outbreak which infected more than 30
people.

According to the link given below the measures will
allow authorities to hold food at the borders and
importers will have to ensure the food they bring in is
safe or face hefty penalties including 10 years in jail
for some offences.

One of the requirements will be that they have international
recognised food safety controls in place throughout supply.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/tougher-food-import-controls-pass-senate
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 15 February 2019 12:34:55 PM
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Foxy,
The information I used came from an ABC news article currently shown. A link to this article did not work, so I will try again.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2019-02-15/foot-and-mouth-disease-detected/10812602

Basically it refers to findings of FAM in meat samples. It does not say if the samples tested were from legal imports or attempts to illegally import by travelers.

However the resultant FAM would be devistating what ever the means of entry.

Given the importance to us, I believe that our laws should be the harshest in the world. I see on border control TV programs that the travelers usaully claim ignorance which is not good enough
Posted by HenryL, Friday, 15 February 2019 2:00:28 PM
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Foxy,
Sorry link still not working!

Try ABC News website as it is currently there shown as:- 'Meat contaminated with potentially catastropic foot and mouth disease seized at airports'
Posted by HenryL, Friday, 15 February 2019 2:09:19 PM
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Henry L I needed help and got it to see my links worked
Just remove the s in first line and as you post it will work
For decades TV has shown us boarder protect is limp wristed
People smuggling fruit and veg get a fine and warning, you and I would be treated harsher for using a phone while driving
Not as openly hostile as you seem to be to other races but these folk need big fines some prison
Posted by Belly, Friday, 15 February 2019 4:36:44 PM
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Belly,
Thanks for that but even though I forgot about the s it may not be the problem. Try and see

http://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2019-02-15/foot-and-mouth-disease-detected/10812602

Eureka, looks like it may work
Posted by HenryL, Friday, 15 February 2019 5:01:01 PM
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Belly,
You said "Not as openly hostile as you seem to be to other races but these folk need big fines some prison"

Please explain, you seem to imply that I consider race when I raise a problem.
Posted by HenryL, Friday, 15 February 2019 5:10:03 PM
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Modern human & cargo/produce movement are now so huge that decease outbreaks are only a matter of time.
On the Cape York Road they have Quarantine stations that are not manned from Friday afternoon until Monday morning & so many tourists & locals alike can carry prohibited items down to wider Australia. It makes a mockery out of the farmers' concerns in the South.
If anyone should be penalised it's the top bureaucrats of the Dept of Primary Industries.
Posted by individual, Friday, 15 February 2019 8:18:14 PM
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Henry L read your post
Even foot and mouth could enter in the baggage of some one smuggling food
Why such very weak fines stunned me
Our very future in trade requires better surveillance and harsh penalty's
Clearly some offenders have done it before and will do it again if it is cheap if caught
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 16 February 2019 5:07:59 AM
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Belly,
Yes I agree,the penalties need to be much tougher. It is a waste of time just destroying the illegal food, the tourist or importer needs serious punishment and more spent on detection.

But you mention race, so I ask you again what has race got to do with it? You imply that I am racist in raising issues and I think you need to fully explain what you are on about. Or should everyone here simply disregard what you say?
Posted by HenryL, Saturday, 16 February 2019 9:01:40 AM
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Henry L it is my view, and like you I can get it wrong a post here by you highlighted race mentioning a few
In this matter race has no roll people from every country including ours, smuggle things in
Even gardeners trying to bring in plants or cuttings thinking it will be ok
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 16 February 2019 10:59:14 AM
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We're literally heading towards reverting back to Gondwana Land with all species spreading as if there were no oceans.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 16 February 2019 7:43:12 PM
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Good morning my old mate indy, the sky is not falling mate
We are not all doomed the real world has its problems but rather be a road killed possum than any thing other than an Aussie
Cheer up bloke
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 17 February 2019 6:03:28 AM
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Belly,
by reverting back to Gondwana I mean that with so much cargo movement nowadays it is literally impossible to prevent species settling everywhere. The uniqueness of species of continents is no longer applicable. The good thing is that animals will adapt. Why, because animals don't have religion to ruin it all for them.
That's why humans need to be kept behind walls to slow the spread of their stupidity because stupidity is what gets enhanced easier than any other human trait. Stupidity can spread via media, whereas no other decease can.
In case of the Cape York Quarantine Stations, it is stupidity that lets harmful products through into the rest of Australia, not the closed station.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 17 February 2019 8:19:18 AM
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One day, bank on it, some one will import a very real threat to our country's safe food rating
It in all probability will come in the suit cases of some mum and dad couple
Having got away with wrist slapping in the past they will take the risk again, and again
Unless we name the offense just what it is, a crime we will be in part responsible too
Posted by Belly, Monday, 18 February 2019 6:21:41 AM
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Belly,
The real threat is sabotage ! Political by the Left & economically by foreign interests operating here with immunity !
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 8:53:37 AM
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well you do live in another world old mate
thankfully one that never existed
if we had a subject heading about the biggest risk to this country my answer word be china we are however talking about a future possible loss of our clean and green food rating
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 4:03:51 PM
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about the biggest risk to this country my answer word be china
Belly,
My answer is Australians ! Why ? Because they rely on others to solve their problems & so far as patriotism goes they do not give an inch or a minute !
Real patriots do not destroy their own country for money !
That's why you & so many others are against a National Service. Sad, very sad indeed !
I gladly offer to help those worse off than I but I will not offer to help those who are better off than I !
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 6:46:04 PM
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Individual we are so far apart here I am not sure what to say
Yes we do have trouble understanding our iPhone is not the most important thing in our lives
And giver very little thought to the big picture
Maybe we have been educated to do that
But in the matter of China? you will be aware of the pre war warnings about Japan.
We live in similar times, if every one of us had your national service, and fitted every one of your wishes,
We would be outnumbered by the many thousands to one, in what one day will be a war
Right now, not fear fact, China has set its sights on world domination
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 5:39:36 AM
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Belly,
Don't worry about China, they're far too deep in debt. Just wait for what's going to transpire later this year.
I maintain my claim that Australia's worst enemies are Australians, particularly the Leftists !
There are of course many decent ones who are supportive of a national service & flat tax & welfare reform etc but they're heavily outnumbered by those who oppose common sense & who are ready to sell their grandmothers to the highest bidder.
I am against the systematic ruining of this Nation by them !
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 11:49:24 AM
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Good news indy, it is only a nightmare, never going to happen
China is a very real danger and if we live long enough you will see that
The thought that this country is killing its self because they do not think like you or I is amusing
The subject deserved more though, both the airport bags stuff, and the larger as intended by our author
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 2:37:36 PM
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The thought that this country is killing its self because they do not think like you or I is amusing
Belly,
Are you trying to win a competition in being thick ?
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 3:07:04 PM
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indy I reserve the right to be rude, but understand it is best not used
all I need do is tell you what that remark says about you old mate, not me
We all must confront our own opinions, constantly ask our selves could we be wrong
And it is my view you not I have put too much faith in your own narrow opinion
we drifted far from the threads starters path, but in reality it needed highlighting
This country will suffer greatly when, and based on current protections it is when, we no longer have our clean and green food lable
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 21 February 2019 4:48:34 AM
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Belly,
In case you haven't noticed I only resort to sarcasm AFTER it has been dished out to me.
I don't like having to go down that way but there are times when people simply don't take notice of what is being proposed & why & sarcasm seems to make them sit back & think ! sad but true !
People have an indisputable Right to air their views but when they overstep the mark through deliberate misquoting or condemn people who are doing nothing more than offering solutions then the undermining has to be addressed.
It's because of this self-serving undermining mentality that this Nation must be planning for a future national Service. It's the only way to regain some integrity, particularly among those in authority.
Posted by individual, Thursday, 21 February 2019 9:56:13 AM
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indy let me be clear, my differences with you are only in our opinion, nothing else
Please let me say it again, I do not dislike you but some times your view
I see in your second last post a shot at me, defend myself
The thread is about a thing I saw as a very real threat, forgive me for taking it seriously
Here, online in general, we can not force others to agree
We by our very nature, want to think we are telling it as we see it
Asking others to agree is never going to work
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 21 February 2019 11:32:52 AM
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Here, online in general, we can not force others to agree
Belly,
i'm not forcing anyone to agree with me, I'm trying to make them see & look ahead to the future of this nation !
As it is now all I seem to witness is an unwillingness to contribute for the good of all.
Posted by individual, Thursday, 21 February 2019 12:43:35 PM
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indy sorry, true I am, but I do not share your pessimistic views about the world
Every problem has a solution, and often it is not one you or I can see
Just think if the true right, or true left had total control
This world would be a grim place
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 21 February 2019 3:12:29 PM
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This world would be a grim place
Belly,
There are some three billion people who'll tell you the world is already a grim place.
Posted by individual, Thursday, 21 February 2019 6:46:29 PM
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Let us end our over the fence natter indy we are not addressing the subject and at times do not even understand what we are talking about
See you in another thread
Posted by Belly, Friday, 22 February 2019 5:27:44 AM
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Belly,
The socialist tactic of burying your head in the sand doesn't solve any problems !
Posted by individual, Saturday, 23 February 2019 12:43:44 PM
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