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Do Governments always tell us every thing

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Tony Lavis truth is not welcomed by all here big round of applause for your telling it
Again, CLEARLY, the toxic right will use any untruth
And ignore the truth the very right are the biggest threat to world peace
Posted by Belly, Friday, 1 February 2019 10:52:54 AM
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Issy, I do concur, I really do, and I would love to, BUT, many of the things I know or say are from memory, such as it is, so if I can remember the origin of the fact I speak, I will quote it.
Even then, in my haste to get the words down I might forget to supply a reference.
But in truth, I have never had to before, so it is alien to me and of course I would have to remember to do so, if and when it was required.
Unlike Foxy, who has 'lived' in books all her life I have lived in workshops all mine.
So I did not get much, if any, exposure to books and linguistic or forum proto-cols, so this might explain my shortcomings in those areas.
Posted by ALTRAV, Friday, 1 February 2019 11:22:13 AM
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Belly Quote "is in fact close to the truth
A very very real danger to mankind is not the invisible left
It is in fact a right that openly has abandoned all links to truth"

** That is your opinion, you may not like this but your opinion on any subject does not make it a fact, unless you have supporting evidence. Which you virtually never do.**

A statement made without evidence in most cases is only an opinion.
Posted by Philip S, Friday, 1 February 2019 12:31:54 PM
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Philip S,

Pretty much everything you write about the Lusitania is correct or arguable. Its also utterly irrelevant to what we were discussing.

You were trying to show that the cover-up around the Lusitania was analogous to your supposed cover-up around Pearl Harbour. Bonkers as that notion is, nothing you wrote advances your screwy claims.

You see, proving the Lusitania carried munitions (true) doesn't prove anything about Pearl Harbour except in the fevered minds of the true conspiratorialist.

Might I suggest, if you want to go down this path, that you examine the notion that Churchill engineered the sinking to draw the US into the war. I'm sure there's plenty around - I've got a book called 'Dead Wake' which you could look up and which covers this issue.

But going to a fantasist like Corbett!! ! oh dear. A man who hasn't seen a conspiracy he doesn't like and won't fall for.
Remember, this is one of the chem-trail lunatics.


Really, why am I even bothering with you?

By the way, the Lusitania was downed in 1915 but war wasn't declared until 1917. Not exactly analogous to Pearl Harbour where one followed t'other immediately.

Also by the way, while the sinking did move the needle in the USA somewhat against Germany, the real clincher was the Zimmerman telegrams. But strangely, these don't so much as get a mention in your utterly hilarious links.

You're going to educate me on the way the world works? Now that's funny, on so many levels.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 1 February 2019 12:37:57 PM
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the toxic right will use any untruth
Belly,
the only toxic outfit is the one you're supporting ! I admit the present Govt is failing to address most social issues but at least they're not poisoned by what your lot has been afflicted by.
I put it to you that your mind is so poisoned through brainwashing that you're incapable to see truth. You're always on about truth, as a matter of fact it is the word you use the most so, if you're so keen on truth why do still defend & promote the party whose policies are ruining this Nation ? I fully support your criticism of the present Govt's follies but to not criticise Labor's follies & actually promote them is just a step too far over the line of decency.
Posted by individual, Friday, 1 February 2019 12:55:18 PM
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Philip S,

"Simple question can you provide evidence the information is false,"

Did I say it was false? Your comprehension skills seem somewhat stretched here.

"Wrong again, this info came out before but at the time the headlines were that the Government would not be releasing to the public which hospitals had the worst records."

Evidence?

"Does it give information about how many people died because of medical malpractice, surgical instruments left inside patients, wrongly prescribed medication, NO again you are plain ignorant."

Actually yes. Seek, my lad, and ye shall find. The data isn't hidden its just inaccessible to the feeble minded.

"You surpassed yourself with that one because you stated there "To tell the truth, I haven't really followed it so can't judge error or not." ALSO "SR acted honourably." implying to all matters but you admit not having followed it."

Again, you display the inability to follow the logic of a discussion. Yes, initially I didn't concern myself with a childish spat between you and SR. But later after you'd thrown such a tantrum I went back and had a bit of a look and found that I sided with SR.

As to SR acting honourably, I've explained to you several times I was referring to the way he acted in regards to the discussion between he and I.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 1 February 2019 1:03:48 PM
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