mhaze fair suck of the sav bloke
How did you make my questions claims
And think with me on this, as you said no evidence exists, how can you prove your point
Did Howard know his Minister pied about children over board
Did a deputy PM leader of the Nats resign because he knew it would be found he lied about the grain deals with Saddam Hussein?
As a Labor supporter I some times think Kerr may have played a Judas roll
And you know, or should America was reading the Japanese cores and Australian coast watchers had warned them

Belly,

"And you know, or should America was reading the Japanese cores and Australian coast watchers had warned them"

What is that supposed to mean?

What did the Coast Watchers warn them of, and when?

Is Mise,

When Belly writes 'cores' I think he means 'codes'.

He is of coarse wrong. The Japanese changed their naval codes on 4/12/41, just before the Pearl Harbour attack, and that code wasn't breached until 1942. Still why let the facts get in the way of the narrative?

Yes, the US had examined the possibility of a Japanese attack on Hawaii but that's not the same as saying they had prior warning of an attack on 7/12/41. Incidentally, they'd also examined the consequences of an attack on San Francisco, LA and Seattle as well as Alaska and Manila. That's what military planners do. They'd also developed plans for their own attacks on most major world cities. I can absolutely guarantee that somewhere in the Pentagon is a plan of attack for Sydney and Canberra. And Australia would have plans for an attack on Jakarta. They're just plans, but the military needs to be ready if circumstances change.

Also Mitchell getting the timing right is hardly a surprise. Sneak attacks almost always happen at sunrise

is mise assure you it is common knowledge America had been warned about Japanese shipping by Ham Radio operators
Called coast watchers who did inform America
You have a combative style of asking questions, some times it is hard to see why
Do you think the American personnel who reported the planes approaching should have been listened to
After that Sub was sunk, hours before the attack should an alarm have been posted
Did Australia, or England, then clearly looking for America to come in to the war, warn as we have been told America
The subject is worth goggling, it intensely interests me, many many hours have been put in reading of those events

"[I] assure you it is common knowledge America had been warned about Japanese shipping by Ham Radio operators".

It might be common knowledge among those who haven't really followed the history of this, but it also wrong.

The Japanese had maintained strict radio silence for the entire voyage, even to extent of disabling every radio on the ships and the aircraft to avoid mistaken transmissions. There are plenty of other reasons to doubt this 'ham radio' misinformation but I see no value in going into them.

" many many hours have been put in reading of those events"

Might I suggest many many more hours might be needed.

One other point while I'm here.

"Coincidentally the vital US Aircraft Carriers, which played an important part in the defeat of Japan, were at sea."

Its a common error among non-historians (and many historians as well) to look back with 20/20 hindsight and assume that the people of the time also knew the future.
In 1941 the aircraft carrier wasn't considered to be the most important or even an important vessel in the fleet. They weren't even considered to be capital vessels. Aircraft carriers were thought of as just being scouting and transport tools, which is why they were at sea at the time. It was only after Pearl Harbour and especially Midway that the true importance of the aircraft carrier became understood.

Sooooo, if the US command had prior warning of the attack, they would have had what they considered the more important vessels like the destroyers set to sea and not the unimportant vessels like Enterprise.

mhaze ok if you want to ignore long ago questions about the whole event do so
It remains true America had reason not to tell its people what it knew then or even now
And that many governments still do not tell us every thing