There are two parts to the Australian Liberal Party- 1. The Free Traders 2. The Conservatives.

The Conservatives are tired of the Free Marketeers dominating the party and feel that they no longer represent what the Conservatives stand for. It's their belief that Conservative policies are truly in the publics best interest- however they are struggling to make themselves heard over the bitching between the two types of liberalism (Social vs Market- Labor vs Small L Liberals).

They feel that Australia is in a state from which it's becoming difficult to recover from due to "classic liberalist meddling" with the lives of private people- who just want to be left alone to raise their families the way they believe is right- like it has been done for thousands of years.

Their families are not a socialist experiment.

This is why the Conservatives feel that even if it costs the Liberal party elections- Australian Survival is more important than the survival of the Liberal Party.

After all without Australia- there is no Liberal or Conservative party anyway.

Liz Coleman on Ted says that no one has the answers to the problems of the world not the experts, the politicians, and it is the responsibility of everyone to assist. Experts have a highly focused domain that doesn't account for the cross domain nature of solutions and so cannot be relied upon to provide them.

//It's their belief that Conservative policies are truly in the publics best interest//

The public, thankfully, are not so easily fooled.

I thought it was the Protectionist Party and the Free Trade Party. They were the dominant parties in the informative years following federation in 1901.
CM neither party was Socialist in outlook, The Australian Labour Party was the third and minor force in politics of the day. Are you advocating a return to spats and straw hats? Some of your forum cohorts are still wearing theirs.

Reality check CM as we are about to see middle Australia, soon middle America, is not willing to follow the very right
A true danger to Democracy, unlike the childish anti left posts, the right will, by this time next year, be reduced to a rump
Then true Liberalism will again rise out of the ashes

Belly: unlike the childish anti left posts, the right will, by this time next year, be reduced to a rump.

Does this mean that you are still an Old Time Communist at heart.

Do you remember what happened to "Utopia?" in Argentina?

How do you feel about the Socialist experiment failure in Venezuela?

Another failed Leftist Socialist Heaven.

jayb you can you know, can return to reality
The first step is sitting in front of you TV and watching Sky news, for 24 hours
If being part of the huge fake news/lie that is the far right does not open your eyes you are lost
Tell me, do you see any truth in my posts
Do you think 30 plus polls are a result of a bloke named Belly, spouting left wing junk?
Or just maybe AUSTRALIAN VOTERS expressing a view, one far different than yours
This thread, prove me wrong, HIGHLIGHTS its truth each time another Liberal is challenged by a once Liberal