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A socialist manifesto for Labor

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ttbn,

In a political millieu swirling with claims and
counter-claims, fact checking can provide an
antidote to ignorant, wrongheaded and deliberate
falsehoods.

You may prefer to "make up your own mind," most
thinking people like to assess the accuracy of
claims by politicians, public figures, advocacy
groups and institutions engaged in public debate.

The ABC along with a collaboration with RMIT
University provide a transparent account in
fact-checking with an Australian focus that helps
people to make up their own minds by providing
them with accurate information to make informed
choices.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 11 January 2019 12:47:00 PM
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Foxy, Belly,

Socialism is by definition:

a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

With Shorten's tax and spend, he is by definition increasing the role of the government in the control and ownership of the means of production and distribution. Shorten is by definition a socialist, and until recently the labor party used to sing the "red flag" at its meetings.

To claim that the labor party is not socialist is laughable.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 11 January 2019 12:48:23 PM
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SM,

Read the first link I gave.

Explains things for you.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 11 January 2019 12:59:23 PM
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"The ABC along with a collaboration with RMIT
University...."

100% Lefty 'collaboration'. Makes me shudder.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 11 January 2019 2:24:58 PM
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In this world we have Rupert Murdock Fox news Sky, about ten shock jocks and Trump
Masters of the lie, of false fear, of propaganda that would make Gobbles blush
This thread APPEARS to support my party
Even tells us we should grab the red shirt and become red ragers
BELIEVE this could be just another Conservative trick thread
Not enough Labor supporters or swinging voters, exist to EVER ELECT A SOCIALIST ALP.
We are about to win office, holding the very ground the Liberal party held at its birth
Any thought we want to become a very minor party supporting less than 5 percent of voters has to be misleading or silly
A Mainstream party Labor marches with the voters not against them
Posted by Belly, Friday, 11 January 2019 4:02:55 PM
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Shadow, is it "socialism" when you spend $37,000 to fly yourself from Canberra to Adelaide at taxpayer expense? We could ask Mathias Cormann that question, it puts him up there with Bronwyn Bishop and 'Coptergate'. Another case of a Liberal snout in the trough!
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 11 January 2019 5:48:47 PM
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