Someone in the Labor party trying defame another Politician.

George Christensen in clear as federal police reject allegations

Rare step by the Australian Federal Police points to their belief that the unfounded referral against Mr Christensen was politically motivated and a waste of taxpayers’ money.

Last week it was reported that a federal MP was travelling and sending money to “seedy” neighbourhoods in South-East Asia. Mr Christensen, who met his fiancee in the Philippines, travels there regularly for philanthropic reasons and is connected to a number of Christians in the region.

A senior Labor MP is believed to have made a referral.

AFP Deputy Commissioner Ramzi Jabbour put in writing that:

• “The AFP completed a thorough assessment in relation to this matter and found there was no evidence or other information to support the allegation or establish criminal conduct on the part of Mr Christensen.

• “The AFP received information alleging that MP George Christensen engaged in conduct overseas potentially in contravention of Australian law. The information was provided to the AFP by a third party with no direct knowledge of the alleged conduct. The assessment was not triggered by a referral from a government agency.

• “AFP inquiries were not inhibited due to an inability to access encrypted messages Mr Christensen sent online.

• “The AFP can confirm that in the wake of media reports relating to encrypted messages, Mr Christensen has offered his mobile device to the AFP for examination and that offer has been declined.”

A furious Mr Christensen, whose marginal seat is being eyed by Labor, said the allegations were a new low in politics.

“The AFP have stated that the allegation was made by an individual who had no knowledge of the conduct they were alleging. It is now widely known this individual was a Labor MP,’’ he said.

“This debunks claims that government agencies such as AUSTRAC and the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade had referred allegations to the AFP months before a Labor MP referred their allegations. There was only ever one referral and that was made by a Labor MP.

"Last week it was reported that a federal MP was travelling and sending money to “seedy” neighbourhoods in South-East Asia. Mr Christensen, who met his fiancee in the Philippines, travels there regularly for philanthropic reasons and is connected to a number of Christians in the region."

- philanthropic reasons -

please explain, this potentially smells a bit off

Can't he find an Aussie cause worth giving a crap about?
Or does he only put his money in places other than where his mouth is?

OK it may even be true
It also may not be
A handful of voters, even within this mans party, seem to like or trust him
He will suffer a big shift in the election
Not enough to remove him maybe
But he is not even close to a true Liberal
I tend to think he has questions to answer still

"Mr Christensen insisted he had travelled to the Philippines to visit his fiancee and her family several times since 2017 and had sent her money, while also helping to raise funds for a charity providing disabled children with wheelchairs."

Helping disabled kids get wheelchairs. What a swine, eh Armchair?

I trust you're feeling suitably embarrassed.

Armchair Critic - I would have expected better from you, so called Mr truth.

Quote "Can't he find an Aussie cause worth giving a crap about?" I don't hear you saying the same about the Federal Government when they give away hundreds of millions of dollars to overseas countries, why not give it here in Australia or for that matter other individuals who do the same.

Quote "travels there regularly for philanthropic reasons and is connected to a number of Christians in the region."

Do you have evidence that the AFP don't have maybe you should share it with them, GEE you have nothing except your new view on life ** people are guilty until proven innocent **

Belly MSM are great at front page big font news stories BUT page 20 very fine print retractions.

Quote "OK it may even be true - It also may not be"

So are you calling the AFP liars?

Quote "I tend to think he has questions to answer still"

Okay mister backseat lawyer what questions?

From George Christensen.
This week my lawyers have written to and received a response from the Australian Federal Police (AFP) in relation to recent false allegations in the media.

In their letter, which I have released in full to the Courier Mail, the AFP make it clear that the allegation which triggered an automatic assessment by the AFP (as all allegations do) was made by an individual and not a government agency as has been claimed by certain media outlets. The AFP have stated that the allegation was made by an individual who had no knowledge of the conduct they were alleging. It is now widely known this individual was a Labor MP.

This debunks claims that government agencies such as AUSTRAC and DFAT had referred allegations to the AFP months before a Labor MP referred their allegations. There was only ever one referral and that was made by a Labor MP.

More importantly, the AFP have categorically denied they had any concern over so-called encrypted messages on my mobile phone or any other electronic device. The AFP also confirm that, in the wake of media reports, I have offered them my mobile phone to inspect and they have declined the offer because they have no concerns with it or any messages on it.

These two fake allegations were passed off as fact in the media in articles published in print and online which have named me. Journalists also named me in connection with these fake allegations and claimed they were fact on Twitter.

I have clear legal advice that I have been defamed and have issued instructions to my solicitors to seek redress for these defamatory claims.

Now that the facts are clear, I call on all media outlets who have published these claims to immediately retract them and to apologise publicly for publishing fake allegations.

Finally, I repeat that the AFP have advised in their letter that the allegations made against me were not supported by any information or evidence, and that I have not committed any criminal conduct. In all fairness, this must now end this matter.

Someone in the Labor party playing dirty politics.
Philip S,
WHAT ? No way, can't be, don't believe you, that's insane that could not possibly happen, not in Labor ranks !

Lets look at the facts:

1) George Christensen has a record of lying.
He's admitted to Andrew Bolt and others,
of lying in the past.

2) New Corp Australia has alleged that an un-named
government MP (Christensen) had sent money to
multiple accounts in the region with checks revealing
he was indeed visiting "dangerous" neighbourhoods
"notorious for prostitution and drugs."

3) The Federal Opposition became extremely concerned by
reports that this MP could be open to blackmail over
the frequent trips to "seedy" parts of SE Asia.

4) Both a Labor MP AND a former senior Government Member
became concerned about this situation.

5) New Corp Australia has also reported that the investigations
into George Christensen's conduct had already begun
several months BEFORE the Labor Party's referral of this
matter to the Federal Police.

Mr Christensen's denials of all his trips to the "seedy"
parts of SE Asia - need to be explained. No excuses made.

Philip S please forgive,like talking politics
But what is the point in a thread such as this?
Based on recent polls, not from Labor but inside the Liberal tent
Such as this man are unloved
You could not have picked a worse bloke to defend
I loath a word used in Labor ranks, to defend a dirt bag
It has a great history, but some make it filthy by covering our failures, it is called solidarity
This thread is such a rug
In my honest opinion
Best leave you to it
regards

Dear Philip S,

The image of an overweight obnoxious Aussie picking up his future wife April in a karaoke bar in the southern Philippines may have raised eyebrows with some, but she seems to have been good for him as a few months later he was off to Malaysia to have stomach surgery to control his weight.

She still lives in the Philippines and he returns there regularly.

However I'm not sure why you are just blaming Labour figures for raising questions about his vulnerability to blackmail, George's own colleagues were actually blaming Turnbull's office for the original leak.

Foxy Like usual you show your bias and how naive you are.

What part of this don't you understand?
• “The AFP completed a thorough assessment in relation to this matter and found there was no evidence or other information to support the allegation or establish criminal conduct on the part of Mr Christensen.

Quote "1) George Christensen has a record of lying.
He's admitted to Andrew Bolt and others, of lying in the past."

** Name 1 politician who has never lied, for that matter can you on here categorically state YOU have never lied?

Quote "2) New Corp Australia has alleged that an un-named government MP (Christensen) had sent money to multiple accounts in the region with checks revealing he was indeed visiting "dangerous" neighbourhoods "notorious for prostitution and drugs.""

** What part of the AFP statement do you not understand to bring it up again. **

** Out of interest have you ever been to St Kilda, Kings Cross, Bali, Thailand or a multitude of other locations that have a reputation as being notorious for prostitution and drugs? If you have and every person who has is guilty by your warped logic. **

Quote "3) The Federal Opposition became extremely concerned by reports that this MP could be open to blackmail over the frequent trips to "seedy" parts of SE Asia."

** BS How can you blackmail someone who has done nothing wrong? **

Quote "Mr Christensen's denials of all his trips to the "seedy"
parts of SE Asia - need to be explained. No excuses made."

** According to Foxy you are guilty until you are proven guilty **

Notice everyone Belly, Foxy and Armchair Critic are of the view that you still guilty even if the AFP issue a statement stating "there was no evidence or other information to support the allegation or establish criminal conduct on the part of Mr Christensen.

Philip S.,

Mr Christensen also stated that he was not interviewed
by the Australian Federal Police.

"Helping disabled kids get wheelchairs. What a swine, eh Armchair?

I trust you're feeling suitably embarrassed."

No, not at all.
On one side of the issue you have this:
Politics is a form of warfare, and as such it seems to be 'fair-play' that one political party is allowed to 'find dirt'; or do or say anything that may shed an opponent a negative light.

- Whether its 'fair' or 'ethical' or not is questionable and I don't know if there's any actual etiquette to these political battles.

One side can simply 'throw something out there' to push an opponent like George Christensen for example into a corner and make him do or say something foolish or his conduct questionable and it's all just political point scoring.

On the other side of the argument a lot of 'bad stuff' DOES go on in this world under the cover of 'good deeds'.

If I was entrusted with the job of investigating this I'd want to look at everything.

Firstly, do MP's enjoy any kind of diplomatic immunity?

http://nswcourts.com.au/articles/how-to-get-away-with-crime-diplomatic-immunity/

Then I'd want to know if he's shipping anything in or out of the country, whether he has any other business interests there and who he associates with there.
Also in regards to wheelchairs:
What wheelchair company, (who are the poeople associated with this company and what other companies is this company associated with) how many wheelchairs, what $ amount involved, which Australian ports were they shipped from...

I don't at all feel embarrassed by supporting the general diligence of making sure our elected leaders are doing the right thing, whilst also allowing some room for political point scoring;
- If that's the way the game is played -

Let me put it this way Philip S:
If I was a Labor Party strategist or what have you and I found out George was making frequent trips to the Philippines, I'd be trying to figure out ways that I could use that against him;

- To damage him and his party because that's my job -

Even if I knew 100% for certain he was not doing anything unbecoming, I'll still use that basic fact that he was going there as a point in which to sow doubt about his ethics.

Armchair Critic You are not a Labor Party strategist, you are on a forum.

Just a reminder of something you stated before.

Quote "The only way to get to the truth is to separate arguments that do hold merit from those that don't."

I think you also said on one occasion "I hold myself to a higher standard" haven't found that one yet.

** At the moment that higher standard is 12cm's about the height of the average gutter **

** Looks like a case of guilty until proven innocent, OH wait he has been proven innocent, not according to Judge Armchair Critic **
______________________________________________________________
Foxy Quote "Mr Christensen also stated that he was not interviewed
by the Australian Federal Police."

They would only need to interview him if there was a criminal case to answer, he offered his phone they declined that offer.

The Federal Police investigations as reported by
News Corp into George Christensen's conduct
had begun several months ago. Before the Labor
Party's referral to the Federal Police.
We'll have to wait and see what develops further.
Perhaps he'll stop visiting the "dangerous"
neighbourhoods "notorious for prostitution and
drugs" and stop sending checks to various bank accounts
for "good causes."

Dear Philip S,

What part of the report which you cut and pasted from the Courier Mail without attribution didn't you understand.

The AFP referral was to ascertain if there was any criminal activity or evidence of blackmail. Neither were found however the contention that Christensen spent time in the less wholesome parts of the Southern Philippines know for drugs and prostitution and that he sent significant amounts of money there has not been challenged at all.

Was it enough to raise a red flag with our security services? Certainly. However in reality any morbidly overweight, middle aged Australian traipsing around the more seedy parts of that country trying to pick up local women far younger than themselves is not deemed illegal in Australia. In fact even if he was consuming drugs over there it would not be against Australian law.

However for you to be painting this bloke as a saint is really taking it too far. Strewth mate, you will be giving him wings next.

I make the point again the Christensen primarily accuses a “senior government MP” for the leak. "They now want revenge and have sided with Labor in this smear campaign to try and get that revenge."

So are you going to target the real culprit or just ignore the facts?

Amazing how the regressives make a fuss about him visiting the 'seedy' parts of the Philippines as if Parliament house is any less 'seedy'. I mean we have lesbians, homosexuals, adulterers, divorced, serial bonkers etc etc. When did the left suddenly gain a few morals. I think I missed something.

SteeleRedux Nice try but for your information I did not get it from the Courier Mail.

Quote "However for you to be painting this bloke as a saint is really taking it too far. Strewth mate, you will be giving him wings next."
** Please provide evidence of that statement.

That is two strikes epic fail.

You looked hard but found nothing

Dear Philip S,

You bloody dingbat.

So you got it from a site which took it from the Courier Mail and you failed to attribute either?

Doubly pathetic my friend.

Well at least you know acknowledge it wasn't your own words. Where did you pull it from? Hotcopper?

As to you painting him as a saint you claim there isn't a problem with him lying because every one does it nor with him visiting seedy areas in the Philippines because Foxy may have visited Kings Cross.

Finally you keep evading the fact that Christensen has fingered a senior coalition MP as the source of the original leak not the Labour party at all.

So why isn't the title of this thread “Someone in the Liberal party playing dirty politcs.”?

Wouldn't know the truth if it hit you between the eyes mate. Time to move on to the next bit of dirt. What's next?

SteeleRedux Your comment makes me laugh, I picture a little person jumping up and down frothing at the mouth ranting the words in total frustration.

You keep calling me mate and my friend, sorry to inform you you are neither my mate or my friend so please come down to reality, fact is you the last person I would want as a friend.

Just out of interest although I really don't care what you think but what part of this statement don't you understand.

• “The AFP completed a thorough assessment in relation to this matter and found there was no evidence or other information to support the allegation or establish criminal conduct on the part of Mr Christensen.

** Maybe you are the same as Belly and Foxy in thinking someone is guilty even after the AFP have stated otherwise. **

By the way where did you get your law degree or are you just a frustrated backseat lawyer?

Quote "As to you painting him as a saint you claim there isn't a problem with him lying because every one does it nor with him visiting seedy areas in the Philippines because Foxy may have visited Kings Cross."
** If that is you interpretation of painting someone as a saint what a sad life you must live. **

Hey Philip S,
"You are not a Labor Party strategist, you are on a forum."

- Nor will I ever be; but well done Sherlock for stating the bleeding obvious...

"The only way to get to the truth is to separate arguments that do hold merit from those that don't."

Yep, I definitely said that.

"I hold myself to a higher standard"

Not sure I said that one; you may have misquoted me.

What I have said is that I hold myself to the same (forum) standard that I hold others to.
Which means if you say something stupid, I get to point it out.
But it also means that if I say something stupid you get to point it out.
It means that I expect others to prove their arguments with merit,
But that I too must also prove my own arguments with merit.

"They would only need to interview him if there was a criminal case to answer, he offered his phone they declined that offer."

Yes, and in order to take an MP's phone their probably has to be solid basis of wrongdoing, which their may not be.
Look I'm not saying George Christensen is guilty of anything;
I'm not even aware of any of the real facts relating to this issue.
Which pretty much means I have little more to add than I've said already.

Good to set Old George frying in his own fat. When the blokes not playing Mother Teresa he's hanging around seedy pick up joints in the Philippines. Probably as a devout Christian he's there looking for souls to save.

Dear Philip S,

You wrote;

“I picture a little person jumping up and down frothing at the mouth ranting the words in total frustration.”

Frustration? Really? Mate I'm not the one who started a thread to bash the Labour Party and instead have found themselves having to ignore the very inconvenient truth that it was a “senior government MP” who Christensen accuses of originally leaking this to the Labour party.

You have had the wind totally stripped from your sails and now you are lashing out. Typically childish in my book.

You have lamented “You keep calling me mate and my friend, sorry to inform you you are neither my mate or my friend”.

Mate you must be a new Australian. The term mate is hardly definitive and is often used aggressively in our culture. This applies in some degree to friend as well. Most Aussies recognise the manner in which they are being applied. If you need further assistance with this my friend please let me know.

As to Christensen doing anything illegal show me where I have contended that he had. There are plenty of over weight, middle aged, obnoxious Australian men finding their young future wives in Philippine bars. Seeking compliant Asian brides is a feature of the more anti-PC crowd who struggle with the autonomy displayed by typical Australian women.

I'm not saying this is exactly how Christensen's relationship has evolved but without further information it is walking and talking like a duck.

Why isn't Dear Old George on OLO, just on page 4 of this topic there was an ad for 'Adorable Singles Await'..."These Flirty Babes Know How To Cheer You Up" What's George waiting for? Where is the peanut gallery of anti immigration bods as George tries to slip one in the back door from the Philippines.

The Labor Party doesn't need to tip dirt on George, not that they wouldn't given half a chance. There are plenty of Turnbull's supporters still in Parliament who have a long hit list of "mates", and a long memory to go with it, who are ready, willing and able to do the job for Labor. Dear Old George would be high on the list.

George is a member of the National Party, and in good company, a party almost entirely made up of old men, a couple who are well known for their sexcapades with women half their age, now George makes three. Will there be more?

This thread is typical of the fact free innuendo that the left whingers on this site rely on.

What are the facts?

It has been reported from an unnamed source that GC has got a travel advisory about wandering through the less salubrious parts of Thailand. Please let me know if I am missing anything?

There is a far more substantial case against Bill Shorten for rape.

Shadow Minister,

Total rubbish.

The facts have been presented in the case of George
Christensen. No innuendo there. The man's behaviour
speaks for itself.

As for Mr Shorten?

A thorough and detailed investigation by the
Victorian police made it unequivocally clear that
there was no case to answer. The allegations were
not true.

The same can't be said about Mr Christensen.
At best - all that can be said is the man did not
apparently break any Australian laws. This does
not equate to having "no case to answer."

Foxy - Are you aware how much of a hypocrite you are being.

Read and comprehend.

Quote.
"As for Mr Shorten?

A thorough and detailed investigation by the Victorian police made it unequivocally clear that there was no case to answer. The allegations were not true."

Quote from AFP
"• “The AFP completed a thorough assessment in relation to this matter and found there was no evidence or other information to support the allegation or establish criminal conduct on the part of Mr Christensen."

_________________________________________________________
Then you say.
Quote "The man's behaviour speaks for itself."

** Please enlighten us as to what behavior is of a criminal nature **
** Please be specific here this is what I will come back at you for proof of **
_________________________________________________________
As for Shorten investigated by Victoria police, in a Labor held state by Labor appointed Police commissioner, that's what I call Justice.

I would like to remind you about the Judge Kavanaugh investigation.

1st I will demolish any credibility with this statement by you

You stated Quote "According to reputable sources like CNN, NBC News,
Washington Post, Huffington Post, and others."
** No one could believe anyone who thinks they are reliable sources of truth **

You blindly believed Judge Kavanaugh was guilty on the word of the female but when it comes to Shorten the female must be a liar.

The US Senate have just released the report about their investigation of Kavanaugh and his accusers. To summarise the 414 page report...

“After an extensive investigation that included the thorough review of all potentially credible evidence submitted and interviews of more than 40 individuals with information relating to the allegations, including classmates and friends of all those involved, Committee investigators found no witness who could provide any verifiable evidence to support any of the allegations brought against Justice Kavanaugh. In other words, following the separate and extensive investigations by both the Committee and the FBI, there was no evidence to substantiate any of the claims of sexual assault made against Justice Kavanaugh,”

Philip S.,

The case involving Mr Shorten has already been amply
explained. As has the case concerning Mr Christensen.
There's no comparisons between the two. One was found
to be innocent, the other (Christensen) was found to
have not broken Australian laws.

As for Kavanaugh? He was never on trial and no verdict
was delivered except for those given by Mr Trump in
support. The FBI took about a week on the matter.
They never followed up with potential interviewees
and their investigation was too narrow in time and
scope. The results of that investigation, delivered in
a report to the White House and Senate lawmakers, led
the White House and Republicans on the Judiciary
Committee to say there was no evidence to corroborate
the claims.

Kavanaugh was confirmed in a 50-48 vote. The lowest in
history. He was never on trial - no verdict was delivered
and Trump got what he wanted - as he tends to do - for now
at least.

Dear Shadow Minister,

You wrote;

“It has been reported from an unnamed source that GC has got a travel advisory about wandering through the less salubrious parts of Thailand. Please let me know if I am missing anything?”

Yup, as usual you are missing the facts which is typical as they always seem to elude you.

The advisory was for General Santos City in Mindanao, an island of the southern Philippines.

This was confirmed by a 'named source', bloody well Chirstensen himself.

However if you have evidence of him visiting the less salubrious parts of Thailand as well then I'm willing to look at it, if not perhaps before you come into the thread with your partisan crap you could at least make an effort to get some of this right.

And why is it that when right whingers like you and Philip S get caught defending the indefensible you feel the need to try and switch the focus to someone else. This is about GC, not Shorten or a Trump pick.

What is it with the National Party and these lecherous old blokes who like to chase vulnerable young women. First it was Barnaby Joyce putting the hard word on the office girl. Then it was Andrew Broad trolling the internet for a young girl, now George Christensen is found to be hanging about sleazy bars in the Philippians picking up a vulnerable disadvantaged local girl.

The same three claim to be members of the Moral Christian minority in parliament!

Foxy You conveniently did not address this.

Quote "The man's behaviour speaks for itself."

** Please enlighten us as to what behavior is of a criminal nature **
** Please be specific here this is what I will come back at you for proof of **

IN other words tell us exactly what he has done that constitutes a criminal act?

SteeleRedux Quote "The advisory was for General Santos City in Mindanao, an island of the southern Philippines."

** If that is the case what is he guilty of the advisory would have been because that area is part of where the Abu Sayyaf and MILF rebels are. **

Here is the same question for you, you imply he is guilty of something .
Tell us exactly what he has done that constitutes a criminal act?

Quote "And why is it that when right whingers like you and Philip S get caught defending the indefensible you feel the need to try and switch the focus to someone else. This is about GC, not Shorten or a Trump pick."

You are either stupid or trolling, no one is switching the focus, if you read and comprehended my question to foxy I was trying to elicit why in one case the person is no guilty but in the other two cases the person is still guilty after being exonerated.

Paul1405 Quote If you have evidence of criminal activity please share it here, or is the criminal activity only in your dirty mind?

Quote "now George Christensen is found to be hanging about sleazy bars in the Philippians picking up a vulnerable disadvantaged local girl."

** Of course you were there and saw him or you have photographic evidence of that allegation, if not that would constitute a slanderous statement making you the only criminal here. **

So Foxy - SteeleRedux - Paul1405 - Time to put up or shut up.

** Tell us exactly what he has done that constitutes a criminal act? **

Philip S.,

You've already been told that Mr Christensen
did not break any Australian laws.

Foxy That's what I wanted to hear you say.

By the way you will be advantaged by the results from the Royal commission into banking the one Turnbull and his rich mates didn't want, Mr Christensen is one of the politicians that forced him into having it.

Philip S.,

Thank You.

Enjoy your evening.

You too.

SteeleRedux - Paul1405 Awaiting your answer.

Phil, I am simply mortified that one of parliaments Christian Moral Minority, aka George the Christian, may have been led astray by the evilness of the flesh, just as were poor Barney and Andy, has Gods law been broken? Where is Father Joe and Brother runner when you need them.

Paul1405 So I take it that means no criminal offenses committed.

I would say if the 10 commandments were the basis of criminal law everyone would be guilty of something or in some cases a lot of things.

Foxy,

The police investigation into Shorten stalled because 20yrs later there was insufficient evidence not that there was no case to answer.

SR

Complete bollocks from you again. When has visiting any area of the Philipines or Thailand been an offence?

Shadow Minister,

The Police stated quite clearly - there was no
case to answer by Mr Shorten. If you think there
was then - why aren't you also questioning
the case of George Christensen?

Shadow and Phil, please consider the moral aspect. What will the good Christian folk who voted for these three degenerates think, now they find the National Party is populated by so many of the morally perverted.

Shadow, I see Mr Potato Head done a hatchet job on Money Bags Malcolm today in the rabid rights mouthpiece 'The Murdoch Gutter Press', anything to say.

Dear Philip S,

Mate you are getting desperate aren't you. I have already said the following in an earlier post;

“The AFP referral was to ascertain if there was any criminal activity or evidence of blackmail. Neither were found however the contention that Christensen spent time in the less wholesome parts of the Southern Philippines know for drugs and prostitution and that he sent significant amounts of money there has not been challenged at all.

Was it enough to raise a red flag with our security services? Certainly. However in reality any morbidly overweight, middle aged Australian traipsing around the more seedy parts of that country trying to pick up local women far younger than themselves is not deemed illegal in Australia. In fact even if he was consuming drugs over there it would not be against Australian law. “

So why are you now insipidly bleating on with “** Tell us exactly what he has done that constitutes a criminal act? **”?

Is comprehension your main problem? Or is it that you have been spanked around the park in thread after thread and it has you completely rattled? And why have you yet to acknowledge the original leak was from a government MP?

Dear Shadow Minister,

You wrote;

“Complete bollocks from you again. When has visiting any area of the Philippines or Thailand been an offence?”

You bloody clown. You get your facts completely wrong and then accuse me of spouting crap? Firstly I never said travelling in parts of those countries was an offence so stop making things up yet again. Now why don't you clearly state what part of anything I have said is bollocks? Better yet why don't you let us know your source which said the advisory was for Thailand and not the Philippines.

Facts just seem so inconsequential to you nowadays don't they. Trumpism doing its work yet again?

SteeleRedux So you agree he has committed not criminal offenses.

Quote "The AFP referral was to ascertain if there was any criminal activity or evidence of blackmail. Neither were found however the contention that Christensen spent time in the less wholesome parts of the Southern Philippines know for drugs and prostitution and that he sent significant amounts of money there has not been challenged at all."

But in you above comment you try to imply he did something wrong because he was in certain areas BUT you have no evidence that in these areas he was doing anything wrong. Also it is not illegal to send money overseas.

Quote "why have you yet to acknowledge the original leak was from a government MP?"

I don't care if there was or was not an original leak. I would rather go by his claims than yours.
He has stated Quote "The AFP have stated that the allegation was made by an individual who had no knowledge of the conduct they were alleging. It is now widely known this individual was a Labor MP"

That is the one in question not anything by Turnbull or his cronies if they did anything.

Quote "Mate you are getting desperate aren't you."
** Not getting desperate at all you are the person getting desperate to slander someone when you have absolutely no evidence that he has done anything wrong except in your perverted eyes. **

Dear Philip S,

You rabbited on with;

“But in you above comment you try to imply he did something wrong because he was in certain areas BUT you have no evidence that in these areas he was doing anything wrong. Also it is not illegal to send money overseas.”

God strewth you can be so thick.

No, what I said was the reasons which may have red flagged an investigation by security agencies have not been challenged. That was made patently clear in my following paragraph which you did not reproduce because it didn't suit the idiotic attempt at making an inane insignificant point. Here it is;

“Was it enough to raise a red flag with our security services? Certainly. However in reality any morbidly overweight, middle aged Australian traipsing around the more seedy parts of that country trying to pick up local women far younger than themselves is not deemed illegal in Australia.”

Look Christensen readily admits he picked up his future bride in a karaoke bar in the southern Philippines. I have already flagged why I find this distasteful but have repeatedly said it wasn't illegal.

You wrote;

“I don't care if there was or was not an original leak. I would rather go by his claims than yours.”

They were his bloody claims you dill!

He “claimed to have been told the allegations were “mainly” spread by a former senior government MP and one of his former senior staff members. He did not identify either individual.”
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/22/george-christensen-hits-out-at-smear-campaign-over-reports-on-asia-trips

Here is a direct quote from him;

“"I've asked myself why I've been the subject of such a vile and hateful smear campaign and I can only think it is because I stood up for my electorate against the powers that be, or rather, that were, on too many occasions," … "They now want revenge and have sided with Labor in this smear campaign to try and get that revenge."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-22/mp-george-christensen-rejects-asia-travel-allegations/10663726

You are done and dusted my friend. You are good fun but time to give it a rest.

SteeleRedux Frustrated look in the mirror.

You are the one including things that really don't need including, you are just mud raking.
Quote "The image of an overweight obnoxious Aussie picking up his future wife April in a karaoke bar in the southern Philippines may have raised eyebrows with some, but she seems to have been good for him as a few months later he was off to Malaysia to have stomach surgery to control his weight.

She still lives in the Philippines and he returns there regularly."

Everyone agrees he has not committed any criminal acts, that is all I wanted.

How not to win friends and influence people.

Quote from you "They were his bloody claims you dill!"
"You bloody dingbat."

Phil, nothing to say about the hypocrisy of the likes of Fat George, Joyce and Broad who will play the holier-than-thou moral superiority card when they think it will win them votes from the conservative base. All awhile these scum bags are carrying on, secretly so they think, in a worse degenerate way than those they deride as being morally corrupt.

You are right, Fat George has broken no Australian law, so they say, but as a politician has he acted in a way those who put him in parliament in the first place expect?

Dear Philip S,

You wrote;

“Everyone agrees he has not committed any criminal acts, that is all I wanted.”

No it wasn't since I had clearly stated that was the case four days ago. What you wanted to do was make some petty little point to make it seem like you had managed to salvage a win here.

You are the one claiming I have “perverted eyes”.

So why is it muckraking to state the bleeding obvious.

Is George middle aged? Was he morbidly overweight? Is he obnoxious? Did he pick up his future bride in a bar in the southern Philippines? Is it fair to acknowledge that some older Australian males seek more compliant wives in the less well off parts of Asia?

Of course it is. The fact that you are so touchy raises the question of whether you are also partnered with someone from that part of the world. Look, I lived in the southern Philippines for over 2 and a half years. They are a great people even though a large number of them live in extreme poverty. I have certainly seen Australian males taking advantage of that poverty and it wasn't pretty.

Anyway good luck to the pair, may they confound the statistics of this kind of relationship have a long and happy marriage. Maybe it will serve to lessen the man's obnoxiousness though I am not holding my breath.

As usual, this discussion has been based on political bias: the Left is in high dudgeon about the affair, the Right is more forgiving. It's all about this nong's politics, not about moral behaviour or right and wrong.

Waste of bloody time!

Yes, I suppose when we look back at the behaviour
of our politicians in the past - including the
recent past we have many examples to choose from
in their behavioural actions - right or wrong or
political? The choices are up to us whether we
want these people representing us?

Some great choices there.

"The choices are up to us whether we
want these people representing us?"

Unfortunately, Foxy, we have no choice in who represents what party (they don't represent us at all). Even party members get little or no say. Candidates are selected for past favours done, what faction they belong to, and so on. Actually suitability for the job doesn't get a look in. Character and values are nothing to the political class.

Foxy,

The Victoria police never said such a thing. Please check before posting a lie. The statement from the Vic police was:

"Victoria Police can confirm that a report of an alleged historical sexual assault has been investigated by police. Investigating police sought advice from the Office of Public Prosecutions, which advised there was no reasonable prospect of conviction. All parties have been notified that Victoria Police will not be proceeding with criminal charges."

By comparison, all that exists against GC is innuendo.

Paul,

Considering the woman molesters and kiddie fiddlers in the Greens, by comparison, the nationals are saints.

Hi there STEELEREDUX...

I see you resided in the Southern Part of the RP for a period of 2 1/2 years? Then you'd be aware that's the one part of the Republic where the greatest number of Islamists congregate, and certainly the most hazardous for European males to live and work. Anywhere south of Cebu City, in Mindanao

From my own knowledge, the conventional Aussies male tourists, who are, overweight, and lonely for female company, generally confine their search for the young Filipina, to certain parts of Manila, (but not Metro Manila) Angles City, & Olongapo, once the previous province of American Servicemen. What sort of industry were you engaged in Steele? I, and several others were investigating the RP side of providing the 'dalaga' (unmarried young women) under False Pretences, to a criminal group working out of Bondi Junction in Sydney. A pretty tame job as it turned out, certainly from the complainants side at least.

Shadow Minister,

Check the web.

The Victorian police made it quite
clear that Mr Shorten had no case to answer and
no charges were to be laid.

What you choose to believe is your problem not mine.

As for Mr Christensen? I think that SteeleRedux has
summed up that matter rather well in this
discussion.

As for telling lies?

Coming from you - that comment can't be taken seriously.

Foxy,

I quoted the Vic Police verbatim, and their statement does not support your claims. I have also looked further and cannot find anything else that does.

If I am wrong please feel free to show me where and I will apologise. However, don't simply try and weasel your way out of it and don't confuse your opinions with facts.

Shadow Minister,

There is so much on the web.

Here is just one link:

http://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/bill-shorten-opens-up-about-rape-allegations-20140821-106r7h.html

You need to stop using language like "lies" and "weasling out."
They are not concepts that are part of my behaviour.

Shadow, pathetic attempt to justify the perverted activity of high profile members of the Coalition government by deflecting to the Greens. The only thing you ever have had to sling mud our way is some indistinguishable ex-member of the Greens who was unsuccessful at a local council election. BTW I understand the fella in question was acquitted of all charges. Unlike Bonking Barnyard, Randy Andy and Fat George, what a disgusting trio.

Dear o sung wu,

I was there as a teenager. Attended the same school as the current president had, in fact he and my mother would exchange books as he was our neighbour.

This was in Davao City and there were certainly plenty of in your words “conventional Aussies male tourists, who are, overweight, and lonely for female company” even back then.

We had several Moro Liberation attacks happen near us during our stay, one landing was just a few kilometres up the beach. I also remember the school being evacuated because of an attack on a chemical plant. We were there at the start of the real insurgency although tensions had been brewing for a while. The Muslim population had not been treated well and the things like the Homestead Program pushed Christians into predominately Muslim areas often displacing whole swathes as traditional land tenure was ignored by the new arrivals.

This left already poor people destitute and often begging for survival. It was the Jabidah massacre in 1968 of Muslim recruits that was the catalyst for armed revolt.

The Muslim Independence Movement it spawned later changed its name to the Mindanao Independence Movement to be inclusive of non-Muslims but its aims were for a separate Muslim state.

There was certainly serious armed conflict during that time which took the lives of more than a few graduates from our school at the time.

The movement ultimately succeeded in getting the Philippine government to hand over a fair amount of autonomy to certain Muslim areas in the Southern Philippines. However there were groups within the organisation which were against the agreement with the government. One of the resultant splinter groups was called the Moro Islamic Liberation Front forming in 1984 so well after my time there.

It has certainly been a vehicle for a more pernicious Islamist ideology, often foreign financed, which has caused an increased unrest in the region. Heavy handed government responses have further served to alienate even those committed to the original agreement. Hopefully it doesn't escalate further.

Hi there STEELEREDUX...

What a tremendous experience you must've had as a teenager. I found the 'pinoy' lovely people, with a very cheerful disposition, and that's despite their poor circumstances. I was utterly dumfounded at the level of poverty, and the harshness of their gaols when juxtaposed to ours. We interviewed several people who were held at the 'Manila City 'Jail' and I was surprised at how overcrowded it was, compared to other western gaols I'd seen. If you have a mind to, Google..'.Manila City Jail' and that'll give you some idea how overcrowded the place is. Steele; thank you for taking the time to explain your own (personal) connection to the RP. I'd go further, but we're right off topic, caused by me, so best I leave it at that. Thanks again Steele.

It's said that Edward VIII who abdicated had a face that was "un-lived in" , without expression or definition, which is like Kim Jong Un with baby-smooth , bland features. Both seem unable to deal with life in a responsible way , as if remote from reality, maybe a form of autism. Kim may abdicate North Korea's existence taking a lot of adults with him.
more info : http://techfela.com/covenant-kodi-addon/

Shadow Minister,
Some people are blind to truth and facts.

You could put here the allegations made against Judge Kavanaugh, being case 1.
Followed by case 2 the allegations made against Shorten.

The blind will say and have said on another thread Judge Kavanaugh was guilty we should believe the female.

But when it comes to Shorten we should not believe the female, although in this case her recollection etc is better and more specific.

Thought about doing it would just be a waste of time, blind to the end.

Philip S.,

The difference is - the Shorten case was thoroughly
investigated over a longer period of time. And the
police stated that there was no case to answer.
The
Kavanaugh case was a Trump set up - given one week.
With many witnesses not questioned - including his
mates from his student days who knew him and his
behaviour back then. Also Kavanaugh was never put
on trial - nor was there any verdict delivered

Trump fears impeachment - he needed a Supreme Court
Justice on his side - Kavanaugh is his supporter.
You really need to be blind not to see that.

God! many of the conservatives on the forum who opposed gay marriage as being the work of moral degenerates have no problem with the moral perversions of Bonking Barney, Randy Andy and now Fat George. These three hypocrites presented as holier-than-thou to those that would believe and vote for them, now we find that is not the case.

I am suspicious of any politician that claims some divine intervention on their part, the god is on my side mob, and there are several in the Coalitions ranks that claim exactly that.

The modern ALP does not just use the sort of dirty tactics described above against political opponnents. They misused police services against me when trying to act in Australia's interests in this very Asian part of the world. Lobbying a local ALP elected polly in my home of Maribyrnong to recreate my Indonesian 1945 related acheivemnets on amazing vacant military heritage land in Maribyrnong lead to me being arrested by the police and dragged through hell.

For a detailed account see: https://freedom-demokrasi-and-civilised-humanity.com/2017/11/08/freedom-demokrasi-and-civilised-humanity/

What Senator Christensen does in the Phillipines sounds great. The ALP response is appalling but it doesnt surprise me. They use the police as if this is a police state. The people have a right to know what they are voting for in this election year.

Ozguy1945 interesting read, but what do you expect from a Labor Government and police commissioner appointed by Labor.

Short of having a good pro-bono lawyer you will get no where.

But determination and persistence can sometimes overcome injustice.

Good luck.

"But for two female Maribyrnong councillors, the policy (published council mobile phone numbers) has facilitated years of offensive and sometimes threatening text messages."

"Between them, councillors Sarah Carter and Catherine Cumming have received dozens of vile and frightening text messages throughout their years of service, most of them sexually explicit."

The Age 6th July 2015.

Phil, if we can expect crap from the Labor Party, then who is responsible for the above crap

Paul1405 Quote "Phil, if we can expect crap from the Labor Party, then who is responsible for the above crap"

Troll question. Without seeing the texts and checking phone or internet logs, how would I know?

Just as you do not know for certain hence question is from a troll.

Just like your original claim in this thread "Someone in the Labor party playing dirty politics." I put it to you that you or Fat George have no evidence of that, it is only an assumption on your part which is not supported by evidence. Given the state of hate that exists between the members of the Coalition it is just as likely one of them tried to tip the bucket on poor Fat George. Maybe you are the troll claiming something that is not true.
Anyway as far as Fat George is concerned, it couldn't happen to a nicer bloke.

Paul1405 - You really are a despicable individual, why do you continually have to use the derogatory term "Fat George", no less than 7 times here.

You are more immature than a primary school aged child.

I have issues with the moral perversions of hetero politicians- but feel that they'll be more than punished by the natural effects of their actions. Also hetero politicians are not trying to introduce sexuality to children- or to present minority sexual preferences to children as normal- they aren't trying to legitimize minority views on the majority. Animals such as lions have multiple female partners perhaps some of their make up is within us. It's an example of wise restraint- of discipline over freedom, conservatism over liberalism. But we can all be weak.

Phil, I am not concerned about your opinion of me, it is of no significance, or of any consequence what so ever to anyone, call me what you like. On another thread you are applauding one of your like minded fellows who refers to others as, neanderthals, maggots and faggots. What do we get from you on that comment; "Thank you you are the only one who understands". Which one of the three is you, the maggot, the faggot or the neanderthal?

Why do I refer to Fat George as Fat George, could that have something to do with the fact that he is fat, and his name is George, and also the fact is, I don't have any particular liking for him.

BTW, do you get upset when some on the forum apply derogatory names to Labor politicians, Gillard, Rudd and Shorten spring to mind, I can't recall you getting all hoity-toity with those of your ilk. Are you biased?

Phil what do you think of a politician who puts on public display a photograph of himself pointing a gun with a caption underneath that reads

“You gotta ask yourself, do you feel lucky, greenie punks?”.

The implied message to his half wit supporters is they should shoot greenies.

Paul1405 You must have a Degree in "the art of the lie", you just can't get your facts right.

You wrote Quote
"On another thread you are applauding one of your like minded fellows who refers to others as, neanderthals, maggots and faggots."

** To make matters worse you deliberately quoted it wrong **

You wrote Quote
"What do we get from you on that comment; "Thank you you are the only one who understands". Which one of the three is you, the maggot, the faggot or the neanderthal? "

** Like usual a false statement here is exactly what I said to him. **

"ALTRAV - Thank you you are the only one who understands how bureaucrats introduce new laws & rules and expressed it in words."

** I am thanking the person on there understanding of how bureaucrats introduce new laws and expressing it in words. ** Lie number 1 by Paul1405.

On the same thread as above you posted these two statements.

Quote 1&2
"Just a small point, you say "Students will be provided with a range of dress ups...such as burkas, traditionally worn by women of Islamic faith"

"But then you say "A spokesperson from the Western Australia Department of Education wouldn't confirm or deny whether 'dressing up' will be part of the 2019 gender education program, stating the 'curriculum is still being developed."

** Two more false statements by you those words were copied and pasted from the article they were not my words ** Lie number 2 and 3 by Paul1405

Link to where Paul1405 claim one thing but the proof is right there.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=8585#273306

He starts at Friday, 4 January 2019 5:55:07 AM

Not your day, that is the same thread where you tried to elevate yourself to a position higher than the forum moderator, by attacking the source of the article not the content.

Paul,

What about the green's resident lard arse SHY. She would make George look like an athlete.

http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2007/02/20/va1237234743692/Sarah-Hanson-Young-5393612.jpg

Shadow Minister,

As always you're looking at things from
the wrong end. Everyone knows that it's
not the size of a politician's rear end
that matters. It's the size of their IQ!

Foxy,

Firstly, as expected you have popped up to finger wag at me whilst ignoring Paul doing exactly the same.

Secondly, SHY's expanding buttocks are in sharp contrast to her tiny IQ and below average education.

SM,

Firstly you consistently on this forum denigrate
politicians who are not on your team - so you have to
be prepared for a serve. Secondly Senator SHY's
IQ must be on a higher level than what you're used to
in the pollies you support. She's been a Senator for
SA since 2008. She was the youngest woman to be
elected to Federal Parliament. She graduated from
the University of Adelaide with a Bachelor of
Social Sciences. She was the President of the
Students' Association of the University of Adelaide.
She's studying towards a law degree - and the list
goes on.
What qualifications does George Christensen have?
I'll have to look him up. Maybe a big rear-end
is a sign of wealth and prosperity in Queensland?
Look at Clive Palmer.

Foxy,

As for your serve, you scored a double fault.

A BA in social science has close to zero intellectual worth and is primarily a degree suited for those with an ATAR in the bottom 50% who can't cut it in a trade and who either want to become social justice warriors or flip burgers (a bank teller in SHY's case).

That she is "studying" for a law degree means little as she probably will still be trying when she is 80.

Similarly being student president and youngest greens senator is more an indicator of her ability to generate faux outrage and tears than of IQ.

Shadow Minister,

You may find the following link of some
interest:

http://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/this-is-why-we-still-need-to-talk-about-george-20180219-p4z0uq.html

It proves the point regarding IQs.

Dear Shadow Minister,

What the hell?

You show a picture of a very pregnant Sarah HY from 2007 when she was soon to give birth to her daughter and compare that to a boozy, obese north Queensland bloke who couldn't bring himself to stop repeatedly shoveling impressive amounts of food down his gullet.

"In the shadowy recesses of a little-visited Chinese restaurant, George Christensen is consuming a variety of deep-fried creatures. There is chicken, beef, pork, fish, prawns and scallops, all disguised within thick blobs of batter. The big politician munches steadily through the impressive pile he served himself at the restaurant’s bain marie, seemingly without concern over which mystery animal will enter his mouth next."
http://www.sbs.com.au/topics/life/feature/george-controversies-australian-government-mp

He certainly wasn't 'eating for two' as they say. And I would wager that his arse was far larger than hers even at the height of her pregnancy.

What a thoroughly miserable comparison to be making anyway, even from someone as partisan as yourself. Better have a good look at yourself mate you are getting worse.

SR, Foxy,

Given that the whole issue of appearance was brought up by the left whingers, I find the faux outrage and rank hypocrisy somewhat amusing.

Secondly the photo I provided shows a SHY that appears to have been eating for 5 and not only looks as though she is carrying quads, but looks the cross between a sumo wrestler and the Pillsbury doughboy. Women for their own health should not put on 30kg.

Here is a recent photo of SHY who pound for pound is a match for GC.

https://indaily.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/20180508001344735903-original-850x455.jpg