Fortunately, the government has refused to sign the United Nations 'Global Compact on Migration'. But, what will happen if/when Labor is elected next year?

Morrison has correctly said that, apart from removing our sovereign rights to control our borders, the Compact does not differentiate between legal immigration and illegal immigration. But, not out in the open is its threat to free speech.

The Compact calls for sovereign governments to SHAPE PERCEPTIONS OF IMMIGRATION - to shove the Leftist UN view of migration and open borders down our throats, with anyone daring to question mass immigration being 'racists' needing re-education. At local taxpayer expense, of course.

The Compact also calls for SENSITISATION and EDUCATION of the media on 'terminology' and 'appropriate' messages about immigration – interfering with the freedom of the press.

There has been the usual 'not binding' nonsense from proponents of the latest UN attempt at world government, but as the professionals have pointed out, activist judges are not above using such documents to 'interpret' aspirational aims into LAW. And, we have had plenty of experience with what the rogues in the Australian Human Rights Commission are capable of.

Labor hasn't yet announced whether of not it would sign the Compact if/when it achieves government next year. I fear that the relief afforded by the Coalition's refusal to sign up will be short lived.

Let us be clear, Labor understands it dare not get too far from the current policy in this matter
They will continue doing little things to make it better but any fear and loathing on this issue is fantasy

Belly,
So Labor will continue to 'make it better' for whom? The immigrants and refugees no doubt and to hell with any improvements that will benefit our citizens. Any watering down of the present regulations will see an increase in both legal and illegal arrivals. Like the proposed increase, by Labor, with increasing the the refugee intake will see more African youths running ammock in Melbourne,and now they are doing the same in Brisbane, as shown this week.

Immigration and refugees need to be cut not increased if citizens are to benefit.

Yes ttbn the proposals from the UN are indeed frightening and it will be Labor that considers them for the leftist ideology. Voters need to be very careful how they vote.

I was planning to vote anything but Liberal at the next election.

However Shortens speech & the policies on housing & refugees indicate Labor will still do almost anything, no matter how bad for the country, just to buy a few extra votes.

They have proved again they are a disgusting bunch, who have no interest in anything other than buying votes.

They have managed to send me scuttling off to the Liberals, something I did not believe was possible before this Labor conference.

How the hell decent people like Belly can continue to support, after this last stupidity them I really can't imagine. I also can't imagine how anyone can be proud to be rusted on to such an immoral bunch.

On the 12th December it was announced that a further 20 country shoppers declined re-settlement in America when they were told that they would NOT RECEIVE welfare in the U.S. The 90 in all who have refused re-settlement in America are “ungrateful political opportunists” according to Peter Dutton.

These illegals are most likely sweating off on a Labor government next year, when they will have all of the welfare they came for at our expense. In the meantime, the wages and pensions of Australians are stagnant and look like staying that way for the foreseeable future.

I note with interest that Belgium signed the comapact.
Immediately the yellow vests took to the streets and the prime minister
had to resign.
Take note Bill Shortlan.
Anyone know a source of cheap yellow vests ?

A further thought, in protests like has been happening overseas where
the yellow vests are protesting they need to realise on this subject
the police are on the side of the protestors because they are the very
last who want to see more Africans from Somalia etc on our streets.

I don't quite understand what all the objections
are about. Apparently the compact is non-binding
and has a provision stating that countries
retain sovereignty over their migration programs.
Why are Scott Morrison and Dutton objecting?

Stupid question perhaps. It appears that
the final draft of the compact
includes a commitment to review legislation and
policies to ensure "migrants are not detained
arbitrarily, that decisions to detain are based
on law, are proportionate, have a legitimate
purpose, and are taken on an individual basis,
in full compliance with due process and
procedural safeguards..."

There's more at the following:

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/nov/21/australia-refuses-to-sign-un-migration-pact-citing-risks-to-turnbacks-and-detention

Foxy,

I'm sure you remember our government stating that whatever they sign they abide by. That was in reference to the Paris Accord, which is also 'non binding’. There are also the comments about activist judges, which are not just my personal observations, but ones based on past performances by unelected officials.

ttbn,

Thanks for that.

Good discussion.

The fact that that the UN makes no distinction between illegal and legal immigration is also unnerving. We do have that distinction. We must not have our right to decide who comes here negated by the UN or anyone else.

The 'reeducation' of the media, and thus the rest of us, is also a huge worry, I think.

I fail to understand what all the objections are to immigration?

Our world is changing, and not for the better
World wide fears about refugees migrants, and population shifts are driving changes
A day will come when we are forced to consider all of the above has two drivers
Financial, looking for a better life
And a truth some are not prepared to see
Over population, that is more people than that land or country they leave can feed house and cloth
IF we can see the truth we can start fixing the real problems, including superpowers wars, and stop a purely racist response

esperence,

You obviously do not read or ever leave your bubble. I am opposed to all immigration, except that which is need by Australia; but I do not “fail to understand” why other people think differently. You, on the other hand, seem to be totally unaware that this thread is not about immigration per se, but about immigration policy being retained by Australia, and not handed over to a an unelected body notorious for meddling in the affairs of sovereign nations.

Hey ttbn,

"But, what will happen if/when Labor is elected next year?"

- What do you think is going to happen?

"The Compact calls for sovereign governments to SHAPE PERCEPTIONS OF IMMIGRATION - to shove the Leftist UN view of migration and open borders down our throats, with anyone daring to question mass immigration being 'racists' needing re-education. At local taxpayer expense, of course."

- Yeah that's the plan.
And via social engineering our people have become so pathetic, that the word racist makes them bend over and pull their ass-cheeks apart.

Since I question question mass immigration I'd like to officially announce myself as being racist.
- I'm white and have indigenous in me but what the hell -
I'll put my hand up for re-education, what are they gonna do?

The Climate and Migration agreements are going to end the last vestiges of national sovereignty.
Make NO bloody mistake about it.
- THIS IS NOT A DRILL -

This is the end of our country as we know it, and all of these scumbag western leaders are nothing but SNAKE OIL SALESMEN who are in on it.

Best leave this subject I do no good arm wresting a troll.

AC,

“What do you think is going to happen?”

I said “I fear that the relief afforded by the Coalition's refusal to sign up will be short lived”, which means that I think Labor will sign. I don't know yet, of course.

I'm glad I had lunch before I read your “ass-cheek” imagery but yes, that's the way it is these days - for our weak politicians certainly. On second thought, it also applies to Green and Labor voters, and to 80% of Coalition voters. Not much hope, is there?

Opposition to mass immigration has nothing to do with 'racism’, a weasel word employed by people with no arguments, morals or common sense. No developed country needs mass immigration. We needed immigration after WW II, because we needed development; but now, it's suicidal. We are not like Japan, which has had virtually zero immigration in the same period and is now suffering for it. We had relatively low immigration - compared with the current lunacy - but it covered our needs very well, and over 70% of the population didn't oppose it as they now do.

I saw something yesterday that was horrifying. Non-English speaking immigrants from Third World countries, with no useful skills except gaming the welfare system, are breeding at four times the rate of locals. So much for the lie that affluence lowers the need for children. More children means more money for these people.

Australia is rooted.

ttbn

and if Australia were to be subjected to 'non-international armed conflict', or perhaps an 'invasion' from external sources, you can be sure that un-elected organisation you speak of is the one we will look to for assistance.

esperence Quote "and if Australia were to be subjected to 'non-international armed conflict', or perhaps an 'invasion' from external sources, you can be sure that un-elected organisation you speak of is the one we will look to for assistance."

We have mutual assistance agreements with America and probably England, the UN do not have an effective fighting army they rely on members willing to lend troops and ca only do so with Security Council authorization.

Quote "I fail to understand what all the objections are to immigration?" Do you think for 1 minute those so called refugees who came to Australia would willingly take up arms to defend Australia?

That questions includes the Chinese, Lebanese, Indian etc immigrants who came but not as refugees?

Judging by the number of people at the shops on Christmas Eve, we have far too many people here now.

We need to halt immigration and refugee intake as well as Mr Dutton scratching a few more that hold our laws in contempt.

Philip S

Are mutual assistance agreements really worth the paper they are written on? What would happen if Middle America were to be subjected to a natural disaster of immense magnitude, where would you be then? UK is pretty far away, and with all the Brexit worries going on there, would they help?

As for immigrants not helping, they too have a house, investments and belongings to guard. Obviously, not everyone thinks like you do.

“and if Australia were to be subjected to 'non-international armed conflict', or perhaps an 'invasion' from external sources, you can be sure that un-elected organisation you speak of is the one we will look to for assistance”.

That wouldn't do us much good. The UN doesn't have an army. All they do is send a collection of people from different countries who don't even speak the same language, in pretty blue berets, to “observe”.

More worrying though is what will happen if we are ever attacked. This multicultural rubbish has been taken so far, we would be lucky to get anyone to defend the country. Even luckier if we haven't already got a substantial number of dual citizens who would help the enemy. Our standing army suffers from 'nerves’ and political correctness, and an influx of females who won't last five minutes in combat.

You cannot have 'diversity’ and expect to remain secure in adverse circumstances. At least a quarter of the population doesn't share our values at best; at worst they are opposed to our values and actually hate us.

Bazz,
I think that now our population would be too apathetic to do anything. shorten is safe.

Multiculturalism has ruined any national pride.

I never thought that Aussies would approve of anal intercourse either, but they did a while back.

Right on, Henry. Apathstralia is a more appropriate for this country these days.

We should tell the UN to shove their immigration compact. It is not needed, each country can manage their own population. Iran and Thailand have shown that with government sponsored family planning their population can be kept at susstainable levels.

There is no need to push more people onto the likes of Aus, we do not want them or need them. Mixing cultures only encourages conflict.

Busness always pushes immigration as more people sells more houses and consumer goods. It does nothing for our citizens or the enviroment.

Yes. It's the already rich wanting to be richer - those who never actually have contact with immigrants. For governments, it's the higher GDP, and a lazy way to achieve 'growth'. For the rest of us. ... well, we get poorer; the GDP per capita drops, wages stagnant, pensions don't increase.

The only wealthy and highly successful bloke in Australia who seems to realise this is Dick Smith.

The French Army Generals have written a letter to Macron accusing him of
Treason to the French people for signing this document without consulting them.

Didn't see many news headlines about that. Fake News by omission, from our media.

The immigration pact says migration is to be regarded as as human right
That will bind it in with human rights laws. So I have my doubts that it won't be binding.
Fancy telling conquerors in previous wars who overran countries, oh dont bother bringing weapons, you can overrun our country,
it's your human right.

So now it's conquest by stealth. Pull out of that bloody United Nations. The West can defend themselves.
All the United Nations does is try to destroy Europe and Western countries.
The irony is, we pay them to do this. We send them millions in fundings.

The real agenda from Merkell. Followed by Macron.

Angela Merkel: Nation States Must "Give Up Sovereignty" To New World Order

“Nation states must today be prepared to give up their sovereignty”, according to German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who told an audience in Berlin that sovereign nation states must not listen to the will of their citizens when it comes to questions of immigration, borders, or even sovereignty.

No this wasn’t something Adolf Hitler said many decades ago, this is what German Chancellor Angela Merkel told attendants at an event by the Konrad Adenauer Foundation in Berlin. Merkel has announced she won’t seek re-election in 2021 and it is clear she is attempting to push the globalist agenda to its disturbing conclusion before she stands down.

“In an orderly fashion of course,” Merkel joked, attempting to lighten the mood. But Merkel has always had a tin ear for comedy and she soon launched into a dark speech condemning those in her own party who think Germany should have listened to the will of its citizens and refused to sign the controversial UN migration pact:

“There were [politicians] who believed that they could decide when these agreements are no longer valid because they are representing The People”.

“[But] the people are individuals who are living in a country, they are not a group who define themselves as the [German] people,” she stressed.

Merkel has previously accused critics of the UN Global Compact for Safe and Orderly Migration of not being patriotic, saying “That is not patriotism, because patriotism is when you include others in German interests and accept win-win situations”.

Now from Macron.

French President Emmanuel Macron stated in a Remembrance Day speech that “patriotism is the exact opposite of nationalism [because] nationalism is treason.”

The French president’s words were deeply unpopular with the French population and his approval rating nosedived even further after the comments.

Macron, whose lack of leadership is proving unable to deal with growing protests in France, told the Bundestag that France and Germany should be at the center of the emerging New World Order.

“The Franco-German couple [has]the obligation not to let the world slip into chaos and to guide it on the road to peace”.

“Europe must be stronger… and win more sovereignty,” he went on to demand, just like Merkel, that EU member states surrender national sovereignty to Brussels over “foreign affairs, migration, and development” as well as giving “an increasing part of our budgets and even fiscal resources”.