Shadow Minister,

Still full of compliments, we see.

How about taking a break? It is
Christmas.

Foxy,

You're 'right-er' than you think....I'm allergic to chocolate.

Loudmouth,

If you're concerned about the level of CO2 (I'm not) then, yes, growing more foliage plants is a partial solution as is not cutting down/burning foliage.Indeed in the early days of Australia's CO2 fetishism that was how we met some of our CO2 'commitments' - by stopping farmers clearing their own land. That is the government effectively expropriated their land, without compensation, and forced them to leave it untouched to refoliate. Most Australians were fine with that since someone else was paying for their CO2 alarmism which I've mentioned earlier.

We could also start growing more trees etc and that would absorb some or a lot of CO2. But only up to a point. New growth forests absorb CO2 but old growth forests either are neutral or, worse, emit more CO2 than they absorb. We used to hear about the Amazon being the lungs of the world.But no longer because research shows that it puts out more CO2 (through decomposition) than it absorbs.
So growing new forests is short-term only.

SR,

Evidence that CO2 absorbed heat was around long before the middle of last century. But its entirely beyond the point. I don't think anyone disputes it. But the question is how much heat. You say a doubling of CO2 will lead to 2C temperature increases. Well that's on the high side of current research.

But:
1. I don't think we'll actually get t a doubling.

2. That increase in temperatures is logarithmic ie the last ton (or whatever) of CO2 absorbs less heat than the previous ton etc. So, since we're already half way to that doubling, we've already experienced much more than the half of your purported increase due to doubling.

3. There is a point when CO2 reaches saturation level. It only absorbs heat at certain wave-lengths. Once all heat at those wave-lengths is being absorbed, all further CO2 is effectively harmless. Note also that water vapour also absorbs at some of the same wave-lengths so that saturation levels may be reached much earlier than previously supposed.

mhaze,

The only thing I am allergic to is mean-
spiritedness.

I'd have thought you would have developed an immunity to such an allergy by now (grin)

We could post on this subject for about a decade
I all probability every thread about it if put together would with ease be the longest ever
Maybe not
But we started posting the science, listing countrys who publicly agree with it
Just maybe if not now soon a majority of the people in the western world want action on climate change
Yet we who believe cop the anger of the other side, just for having an opinion.

mhaze,

Yes - you'd think so.

To me humans are the most extraordinary creatures,
and a big part of me still wants to reach an
even greater understanding about who we are. Not
because I need to know more necessarily, but
because I am drawn to the process of discovery.
If someone asks what makes me happiest, it is
never anything I can quantify like a house or a
possession or something I can touch. It's the
spirit of the human being, which can fill me with
more joy than anything in the world.

And that's what I've learned on my journey, that
my spirit is uplifted by these encounters.
Yes, I have met some bad people along the way.
But I have also met some amazing souls, and their
light fills me.

What is your substitute for chocolate - wine,
sherry, vodka, caviar, pavlovas, glaced hams,
cherries, plums, liquer - so much to choose from...