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The Greenies have struck again.
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Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 12:17:27 PM
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Lord Is Mise, your honour
The topic , Sir. "Some of them admit privately that they really can't clear trees far enough back from main lines without suffering greenie howls. " Power lines . Washpool National Park. Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 12:47:34 PM
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From Is Mise,
"I was referring, in particular, to .. the hundreds of dangerous trees growing right on the edge of the road on notoriously unstable slopes. The Gwydir Highway is known for landslips that block it, I know a lot of the road workers and supervisors in the area and they tell me that the removal of ONE tree involves reams of paperwork.This situation is due to the Greens and their pernicious influence." Removing a tree takes out the stabilising effect of roots > unstable soil> landslips > blocked roads . Greens cause rain , wind and soil structure . They make guns misfire , interfere with CO2 chemistry, discourage the barrier reef from spawning and destroyed Turnbull. Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 2:35:22 PM
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Is Mise,
You said "Did you notice in the news on the Queensland bushfires the proximity of smouldering trees to burnt out houses and sheds?" Yes I did, and noted a few other things from the TV coverage. The fires are only in the bush areas and the pasture areas are green so no, or low intensity, fires there. Down South, in NSW and Vic the grassed areas dry out and provide much fuel for fires, not so in coastal Qld. Did not see any pictures of bulldozers working to establish fire trails and containment lines through the bush so I wonder if fire bosses here do not use that strategy in Qld. Fire trucks are useless unless they can actually get to the fire. Containment lines can be put in during night one and each night after. Aircraft are good for hitting any spot overs next day. Anyone that has a home in a bush area should be aware that sooner or later there will be a fire threat and clearing or thinning of hazardous material should be done to stop radiated heat causing house to ignite. Make the house your refuge and do not evacuate as the house will be under ember attack and one able bodied person can save it. Of course evacuate children and infirm that need looking after. In my opinion far too often mass evacuations are ordered and many houses are lost because of this. There is much information available to make houses safer but if left alone they will burn from ember attack. My heart goes out to those that have lost al Posted by HenryL, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 2:43:06 PM
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"Did not see any pictures of bulldozers working to establish fire trails and containment lines through the bush so I wonder if fire bosses here do not use that strategy in Qld."
That's it , the Greens control fire bosses and leave caterpillars in old logs. Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 3:51:53 PM
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Dear HenryL,
Well mate I am not going to speak on bushfires in Queensland but down here in Victoria that kind of talk will get people killed. There are many people who died in the Black Saturday bushfires who stayed to defend their homes and deemed themselves to be very well equipped. Their bodies were left for others to clean up. One story my cousin told me was of a young mother at the roadblock after the fire had gone through asking about her husband who had remained. She was sure he would have survived because they had built a fire bunker for him to retreat to if he felt he couldn't manage. The fieries went to check and they found him in the bunker without a scratch on him. It was later determined the flames had been that fierce around his home they had stripped the oxygen from the air to such a degree he suffocated. Here is a video of a bloke who at least had a decent clearing around his property. He was pretty confident until the fire appeared. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT0u7JrmlxQ Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 3:52:36 PM
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I'll take your post at face value and regard it as stupid.
Belly,
I'm talking about today, and my friends assure me that tree removal is a paperwork pain in the butt.
What think you about all the dead wood (actual, not administrative) that can't be removed from the roadsides?