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Climate scientists calculations must be wrong.

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How could Climate Scientists have arrived at the conclusions they did when this important factor was unknown to them.

We also therefore have to assume there may be other things they do not know that would cause changes in weather and climate.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/mysterious-radioactive-heat-source-slowly-melting-ice-230604778.html

Mysterious radioactive heat source slowly melting ice.

Kilometres beneath the ice of Antarctica, a radioactive heat source is slowly melting it from underneath, researchers believe.

Researchers flew planes over the ice using radar to “see” three kilometres beneath the ice, where the hot material seems to be slowly melting the ice.

The researchers believe the heat source is radioactive rocks and hot water from inside Earth’s crust.

While Antarctica isn’t going to melt away overnight, it could have important knock-on effects when combined with climate change, according to new measurements by the British Antarctic Survey (BAS).

Researcher Tom Jordan believes the process of melting observed has likely been going on for thousands or maybe even millions of years, but isn’t directly contributing to “ice sheet change”.

“However, in the future the extra water at the ice sheet bed may make this region more sensitive to external factors such as climate change,” he said.

“This was a really exciting project, exploring one of the last totally un-surveyed regions on our planet.

“Our results were quite unexpected, as many people thought this region of Antarctica was made of ancient and cold rocks, which had little impact on the ice sheet above,” Mr Jordan said.

“We show that even in the ancient continental interior, the underlying geology can have a significant impact on the ice.”
Posted by Philip S, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 6:06:39 PM
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Obviously.
They could've chosen to be anything, but were stupid enough to choose a career as a climate scientist;
Doesn't that speak for itself regarding their 'calculations'?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 11:09:58 PM
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Come on Phillip.

Climate scientists don't do calculations. They decide what headline they want, then bodge up something that looks like calculations to give the required result. This is why they don't release any research. They know no one could replicate the myth they are presenting.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 11:35:00 PM
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Armchair Critic I believe you are wrong, there is big money to be made if you as a scientist believe it.

If you as a scientist don't believe it, no government is funding research to prove it is false.

BUT to be serious how many other factors might they not know, they know about solar flares from the sun but what if there are other things the instruments they are using can't detect.
Posted by Philip S, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 11:36:30 PM
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>How could Climate Scientists have arrived at the conclusions they did when this important factor was unknown to them.

Important factor? The temperature of rocks under Antarctica is a relatively trivial factor. It won't have much effect on the climate, All it means is less warming is required to produce a big use in sea level.

>We also therefore have to assume there may be other things they do not know that would cause changes in weather and climate.

Of course, just as they do.

But crucially, it doesn't justify ignoring what they do know.

>If you as a scientist don't believe it, no government is funding research to prove it is false.

Nor should they - governments should fund research into finding out what is happening, not to prove a predetermined conclusion. Though of course there are plenty of fossil fuel companies willing to fund research to prove it is false.

But the data supports the same conclusion as the theory. And importantly, when the scientific papers are peer reviewed, mistakes have always been found in those that reach the opposite conclusion.

>what if there are other things the instruments they are using can't detect

Undetectable things are unlikely to have a big impact, otherwise they'd be easy to detect.
Posted by Aidan, Thursday, 29 November 2018 12:23:27 AM
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Bleeding science! who do they think they are
We have tried and true methods to tell us what is going on and they overlook them
Goats entrails
They for centuries have guided us and we are far from short of goats.
Still even if the next goats guts tell us something is going on, that we may be effecting our climate, we will say it is not true
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 29 November 2018 4:23:59 AM
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