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Australia's lapdog status confirmed

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Last week Australia joined the US and Israel as the only three countries at the UN to vote against the Palestinians taking a turn at chairing the G77 group of developing countries.
http://www.democracynow.org/2018/10/17/headlines/un_appoints_palestine_as_chair_of_g77_developing_nations

This country used to know what an underdog looked like. We were prepared to do the right thing, to stand on even a small margin of principle, to see justice done.

We understood the relationship the US had with Israel was unique which meant American employed its veto to aid it when the world was demanding it be held to proper account for its actions.

But Australia had no such relationship and we either voted with the rest of the world or abstained on questions of Israel.

This was a turning point. Whether it was to protect us from steel tariffs by the US or just a general further cosying up to the Trump administration we just rightly lost a whole heap of respect from the global community.

We really don't stand for much nowadays do we.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 8:26:34 AM
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Consistency and stability is a financial rule: Manus / Nauru/ Jerusalem embassy/ bulldozer diplomacy.
Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 9:00:39 AM
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It is amazing, but gratifying, that Australia had the guts to stand stand with the U.S and Israel in shunning Palestinian terrorists. As “only three countries”, they have shamed all the other gutless wonders, who are they real “lap dogs” and sycophants to the increasing evil and dictatorial United Nations, which outlived its usefulness decades ago.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 10:03:10 AM
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Spot on steeleredux time we grew a backbone, once United States of America is no one we should follow
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 10:16:12 AM
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ttbn
In a shoot-out between Nazis and Jews who do you back? Or would you like the planet to yourself?
Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 11:07:40 AM
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Perhaps you haven't understood Steely, so I'll try to help you.

There is no such country as Palestinian. Surely you do understand that only countries can chair the G77 group.

In fact it is only because so many tin pot US hating countries are members of the UN, the most corrupt organisation yet developed by man, that a non country actually has membership.

God it's time for some of you clowns to grow up, even a little bit.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 11:08:55 AM
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There hasn't been a great deal of integrity in
Australian politics for some time now. And there
have been other aspects of contemporary politics
that have made ordinary voters uncomfortable - from
being open to moving Australia's embassy in Israel
from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, to allowing children to
remain in offshore detention centres for years to name
just a few.

We have the bizarre sway enjoyed by radio shock jocks
and tabloid newspaper journalists to the hermetically sealed
bubble that seems to insulate our politicians from the
concerns of everyday citizens.

And now we have this act - where Australia chose to vote
with the United States and Israel - the only UN member
states out of 193 to vote - against the Palestinian
delegation being able to chair the upcoming Group of 77
meetings on October 16th.

I guess this could have been predicted - what with the
Wentworth election being on the horizon at that time,
plus another election looming in May 2019. The Jewish
Lobby is powerful. And the government needs votes for
(and plenty of donations) for its survival.

However it's not all bad news - shameful as it is -
there were 146 countries who voted in favour of the action
(15 countries abstained). This will grant the Palestinian
Delegation some official status and additional privileges
at the assembly.

The Palestinians will now be procedurally acting more like
a full UN member state during the 2019 G77 meetings, among
developing nation member states. China will also be in
attendance.

As for the Australian government's decision in this matter -
it will be interesting to see whether this will affect our
trade relations with Indonesia and other countries?
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 11:19:47 AM
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Stand up for Australia when in Canberra. Bunnings knee pads provide a quick lift after tipping your hat to the Majestic Authority. Have pride.

Irwin Tri-Laminate Knee Pads
$9.85
Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 11:23:33 AM
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Dead right, Hasbeen. The Palestine 'state' does not exist. These whippersnappers haven't done a lot of history.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 11:35:36 AM
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Dear Hasbeen,

How's it going old cock? Good to see you still flailing away.

I didn't realise that old Blighty was a tinpot US hating country along with most of the Commonwealth.

Stop reading right-wing scripts mate, they will do your head in.

The only reason that Palestine has not progressed to full country status is that the US has continually blocked its path through veto.

The rest of the world knows what a crock this is but you sit there defending it.

Pretty damn shameless in my book.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 11:43:56 AM
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Steele,

"Pretty damn shameless in my book."

What's the title?
I'll keep an eye out for it in Remainders.
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 3:02:34 PM
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Is Mise,

Good idea. Humour is the best way to treat SR.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 3:35:35 PM
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Democracy is for the right stuff . This eliminates
1) commie scum rats yah boo
2) Palestine.
Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 3:48:22 PM
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SteeleRedux, Lawrence of Arabia resurrected.

Maybe you would be better informed if you took your misguided beak out of left wing rag baskets you linked your information to, and read up on some simple historic facts of Palestinian history.
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 4:28:17 PM
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steeleredux it is obvious is it not? holding an opinion close to reality brands you and what you read communist rat bag stuff.
Be proud, any one who can turn those rants on to them here is obviously right
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 4:43:14 PM
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Is Mise,

Steele's book is not available in large print -
unfortunately for you. In any case - it's already
a bestseller and more printings have been ordered.
The demand's so great. ;-)
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 6:38:18 PM
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DD,

There's more on Palestinian history than what
the Zionist Lobby proclaims. You should try
reading some of it.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 6:41:58 PM
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“To the hen house terrorist”.

You may play a mean pin ball, but you sure as hell are the epitome of the deaf dumb and blind kid on the block.

Your friends are the PLO and Hamas; sure as hell shows your misguided affections.

But since you obviously subscribe to terrorist groups among your friends, then maybe you should subscribe to terrorist tactics in Australia, since the same circumstances are now developing in Australia.
As the Jews moved onto the most fertile lands in Palestine, so the Chinese do exactly that in Australia. Any objections?
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 9:03:56 PM
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Australia has had to pay a high price since signing the Yankee Home Insurance policy at great financial cost during WWII. Once elevated to the status of a flunky and lackey, previously the British had held that one over us, we were marched off to fight phoney proxy wars as token participating allies. If for no other reason than to give the illusion the Yanks were not acting alone, in Korea, Vietnam and later the Middle East, Australia was an "equal" partner in the fight against those that would do us harm, so we were told.
It now seems after all the years of groveling and sucking up to America, its all paid off, we are now fully fledged Yankee lapdogs! Dutifully doing as we are told by Uncle Sam at the United Nations.

Steele, Issy is only jealous because his book 'Road Kill Recipes from the Unsuccessful Hunter' which he was flogging on the Forum some years back was a complete failure. Although I must say I did enjoy the contribution by Issy's good mate and leading NSW wombat killer, the used car salesman himself, Tony Azzi; 'Fricasseed Wombat' in a rather dainty 'Galah Sauce'. It went down well with a bottle of Issy's famous Possum wine, Issy makes it at home you know, out of genuine (road kill) possums, he ferments them in his bathtub. The 2019 vintage was an excellent drop.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 10:05:38 PM
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Dear diver dan,

Well I'm surprised to see you commenting here, I thought you were busy chasing down your
“quirky fag boys” or was there something about Sir Lawrence in flowing robes that caught you eye?

Never mind that now, I'm trying to come to terms with the fact that you consider anyone who didn't support Israel and the US in the vote to be supporters of Hamas and the PLO.

You do realise that was the rest of the bloody world you clown.

Look I get why you wear those knee pads from the moment you get out of bed. The very mention of Trump's name has you dropping to you knees in adulation and I suspect a little anticipation. But I'm an old school Australian mate and we have generally figured out who the underdog is. In that little spat over there it certainly ain't the Israelis.

We used to have the respect of the wider global community. Doc Evatt was one of the prime movers in the UN. We were deemed to stand up for ourselves and others. Now that respect has gone and the world sees us as a lackey of the US and you are singing from the rooftops in celebration.

Your not really an Aussie are you.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 10:53:40 PM
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Address to team Archon…

…As the Jews moved onto the most fertile lands in Palestine, so the Chinese do exactly that in Australia. Any objections?…

Obviously, this question has stumped the club of fallen angles. (God be merciful)!

It's also encouraging to witness overt US support for Israel for a change, instead of the covert treachery, under the US Democrats, where oil interest and money, (lots of it), subverted loyalty to Israel.

And I LOL as the new leader of the Wentworth faggot brigade, will be forced into a pro Israeli position on all things.
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 6:41:37 AM
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Dear diver dan,

You wrote;

"…As the Jews moved onto the most fertile lands in Palestine, so the Chinese do exactly that in Australia. Any objections?…"

Yup. Sorry. Fair enough, I missed that.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 7:34:18 AM
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I see Paul identifies himself with the North Korean Regime, the Viet Cong and the Taliban among his friends by this statement; "we were marched off to fight phoney proxy wars as token participating allies. If for no other reason than to give the illusion the Yanks were not acting alone,in Korea, Vietnam and later the Middle East." He do not believe that these regimes must be contained.

With these friends who believes Israel must be blown into the ground, a country that has contributed more to Medical and Agricultural benefits to humanity than any of his communist, or Muslim friends.
Posted by Josephus, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 8:00:32 AM
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Paul,

In Korea, as has been pointed out to you before,
the US was not alone, it was a UN operation under US command.

Participants:

South Korea – 590,911
United States – 302,483
Australia – 17,000
United Kingdom – 14,198
Thailand – 6,326
Canada – 6,146
Turkey – 5,453
Philippines – 1,468
New Zealand – 1,385
Ethiopia – 1,271
Greece – 1,263
France – 1,119
Colombia – 1,068
Belgium – 900
South Africa – 826
Netherlands – 819
Luxembourg – 44

Humanitarian aid (not counted in total above)

Denmark (the hospital ship MS Jutlandia) – 600
India
Italy (Ospedale da Campo n° 68)
Norway (NORMASH)
Sweden

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Command

The USA sure had a lot of 'lackeys'! !
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 8:33:41 AM
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Palestine is recognised as a "de jure Sovereign State" by about 135 members of the UN.
That's why they refer to "1967 borders", recognizing specific land as Palestinian territory currently occupied by Israel.
How can land be occupied if it doesn't belong to anybody?

There is a hypocritical and selective blindness when it comes to recognising human rights atrocities by countries such as North Korea, South America, Burma and Somalia, or Russia carrying out international political assassinations or the possibility of having a secret stockpile of nuclear weapons beyond the scope of international monitors - but Israel automatically gets a free pass for everything, can do no wrong and is the eternal victim.

Not all Jews are rabid Zionist apologists but it's obvious many rabid Zionists are not Jews.

The recent electoral ploy to move our embassy to Jerusalem was gratuitous lap-dog behaviour as craven as the deliberate lies told to get us involved in "the Coalition of the Willing" and resulted in the chaos that continues today.
Posted by rache, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 12:42:31 PM
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It could have all been avoided! had a little bit of love and kindness been shown towards the Koreans after WWII.

"The USA sure had a lot of 'lackeys'!" Nah Issy about 2% of the worlds population. Didn't the Yanks pull that Korean caper while the Soviet Union was absent from the UN? The Chief US warmonger General Macarthur wanted to nuk North Korea killing millions of innocent men, women and children. Issy were you in agreement with Macarthur on that score?
Good to see the US were not alone, they had the likes of Luxembourg and Ethiopia to back them up. Your numbers show what mugs Australian's were.

BTW What did the Yanks, and Australia for that matter, do for Ethiopia (Abyssinia) when Mussolini marched in and butchered ten's of thousand's in the 1930's? Jack s, no phoney capitalistic proxy war to fight there, not like Korea and Vietnam.

Issy, I know you were sucker bait and pulled into that phoney war in Korea, and for that I am truly apologetic for what was done to you by the warmonger Menzies and co on your's and my countries behalf.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 7:09:40 PM
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If the PLO or Hamas orginizations actually cared about their citizens and moved to spend the humanaterian aid that they recieve to move those people out of poverty and refugee status, then they might be worth looking at as real governing bodies and developing countries. Unfortunately their actions are far from that. The reality is that Palistine governments are really just terrorist orginizations. And now, for whatever reason, most of the world is ok to give them international status as a developing country.

It's a sad state of affairs that so many countries voted for Palistine to be recognized. Sad that only the US and Australia voted no.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Thursday, 25 October 2018 2:17:47 AM
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NNS, you dutifully swallow the Zionist/US line when it comes to the Palestinian people. Masking the humanitarian wrongs committed against innocent Palestinians, by relating them to the actions of the PLO and Hamas. I have no time for terrorists or their organisations, but their wrong doings in no way negate the plight of the Palestinian people.
As a realists I recognise the right of the state of Israel to exist, there is no going back. How that state came about is a terrible blight on humanity, but its a reality, and the World has to accept it, including the Palestinians. The problem now is the right of the Palestinians to live a free and unmolested life in a homeland of their own, that is yet to be established.

Dispossession of your home is a terrible thing. If it happened to Australians today, in the way it has happened to the Palestinians, we might well be referring to the terrorists organisations, the ALO and Jumbuck, or some such names.

BTW, I totally agree with Steele's opening comment, Australia has totally sold out to the US, and is now seen by the rest of the world as some sycophantic lapdog which is not to be taken seriously. After WWII we moved closer and closer to the US, seem as a naive but dutiful alley with some small standing and credibility with the rest of the World, but now that's totally gone and our position is seen as the worst US suck up on the planet, even eclipsing the Poms in that regard.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 25 October 2018 5:33:51 AM
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Poor rache,

Making hate-filled speeches against the legitimate State of Israel, on behalf of mandated terrorist groups, assailing its borders.

The evidence points to misinformed, uneducated and might I say, misguided.
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 25 October 2018 5:35:30 AM
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//If the PLO or Hamas orginizations actually cared about their citizens and moved to spend the humanaterian aid that they recieve to move those people out//

I think you may have missed the point, NNS. The Palestinians don't want to move out. It's a bit like Indian reservations: the inhabitants might enjoy higher socio-economic status off-reservation, but they still don't want to leave because they regard it as their home.

//The reality is that Palistine governments are really just terrorist orginizations.//

No, that's not true at all. Look, here's a list:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_groups#Organizations_currently_officially_designated_as_terrorist_by_various_governments

Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad are designated as terrorist organisations by my government and yours. Palestine Liberation Front are considered a terrorist organisation by Canada and Israel, although not by either of our governments - but I trust Canada on this one. The Palestinian Relief Development Fund (AKA Interpal) are regarded as terrorists by Iran but nobody else; I am somewhat dubious about Iran's criteria for determining terrorist status.

Fatah are not. Neither are the PLO, and they haven't been since 1991. You're living in the past... a long time in the past. Things change, mate. Get over it. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not to your own facts.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Thursday, 25 October 2018 6:06:53 AM
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Paul,

Who invaded South Korea?

For a good look at the outcome of the Korean War have see the two Koreas on Google Earth's Night View.

South Korea is a blaze of light whilst North Korea is a blob of almost unrelieved darkness.
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 25 October 2018 7:19:57 AM
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I would believe the rubbish the Left produce it was true! The fact it they are blinded by the UN Islamic Culture. Israel is a generous culture [http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Hamas-turns-away-truckloads-of-Israeli-humanitarian-aid-destined-for-Gaza-556565
]; whereas Hamas as with all Jihad culture believes Israel must be eradicated.
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 25 October 2018 8:19:50 AM
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Issy you ask the question;

Who invaded South Korea?

A more pertinent question is;

Who invented South Korea?

and the answer is the Yanks, Australia, Britain etc etc.

Then we can answer your question; Who invaded South Korea?

The answer is the Yanks, Australia, Britain etc etc, with a massive amount of help from Ethiopia and Luxembourg.

What about my nuk question. I assume your answer was in the affirmative, "nuk the red devils!"

All the killing was so you could crow about the two Korea's on Google Earth's Night View. So, what the Yanks have had is the North by the short and curlies for over 50 years. Its a wonder they are still in existence at all.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 25 October 2018 1:45:18 PM
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Dear Josephus,

This is what happened on the border;

"Hamas accepted four trucks of aid supplied by the Palestinian Authority and two trucks supplied by UNICEF. But two truckloads of medical aid provided by the IDF were turned away when the origin of the equipment became apparent."

And given Israel's behaviour in the past who could blame them. The IDF regularly blocks humanitarian aid from other countries getting to Gaza. To say they are generous fro supplying 2 truckloads themselves is gilding the lily.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 25 October 2018 2:21:36 PM
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Paul,

"On June 25, 1950, the Korean War began when some 75,000 soldiers from the North Korean People's Army poured across the 38th parallel, the boundary between the Soviet-backed Democratic People's Republic of Korea to the north and the pro-Western Republic of Korea to the south..."

Is that statement wrong?
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 25 October 2018 2:58:56 PM
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Some people simply do not want peace at all cost ! Getting them off the public service roll though would subdue their enthusiasm for mayhem.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 27 October 2018 6:09:53 AM
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Yes... Australia has had to pay a high price since signing the Yankee Home Insurance policy at great financial cost during WWII. Once elevated to the status of a flunky and lackey, previously the British had held that one over us, we were marched off to fight phoney proxy wars as token participating allies.
Posted by tomashin, Sunday, 28 October 2018 12:30:46 AM
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