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The Greens call on Coalition and Labor to back bill to abolish religious schools firing gay students

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Is Mise,

Historically customary law has not been recognised as
part of the canon law of Australian law. It is not
codified, nor can it be. If you want more information -
Google "Customary Law in Australia."

Have a nice day.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 10:58:11 AM
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Foxy,

Ask yourself this question,
"Is Customary Law ever applied/used/conveniently recognized by Australian Courts?

If it is, then there are indeed two Laws in Australia and they are not applied to all citizens but only to one group, based on race, so not only is the practice contrary to your view of One Australian Law, but also racist.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 2:17:59 PM
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Foxy, I'm sorry but Isi has clearly won this round.
Yuyutsu, your mention of the FLUX system comes at a fortuitous time.
I've never heard of this Flux system of government, but ironically and very pleased to say that it seems to be the very format I have been pushing for years.
I know that they can still form alliances in a Flux govt, but in my govt, we the people, would have closer collaborative interaction with our representatives in parliament.
Those people who are typically not interested in overseeing the pollies, would just stay out of it as they do now.
Those of us who demand efficient and effective governance will play an active role of guidance and assistance in ensuring the govt does what WE want and not what THEY want.
I too believe in being given the opportunity to see the bills and voting on them so OUR representative will get an exact number of his constituents and the direction he votes on according to OUR wishes.
I am a much happier person now that I have found there is a system of govt based on my ideals.
Yuyutsu, one of the most informative posts in a long time, thank you for that.
Posted by ALTRAV, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 3:41:14 PM
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//If it is, then there are indeed two Laws in Australia//

Well, yeah. I happen to be have some degree of acquaintance with one Fr. Peter Blayney, parish priest of St. Patrick's, Guildford and former Judicial Vicar of the Regional Tribunal of Sydney. He has a doctorate in canon law - so not only does Australia recognise more two systems of law, they recognise degrees in canon law.

//and they are not applied to all citizens but only to one group//

Yep, the Tribunal is only for Catholics.

But I guess it's alright when it's the left-footers doing it rather than those smelly black people, eh Is Mise?
Posted by Toni Lavis, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 5:10:40 PM
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Toni, I'm not following your example as I don't know anything about these other 'laws' everyone is talking about.
Are you saying that there are other laws, eg; religious laws, that over-ride common law?
Too may big and unfamiliar words are being used so I guess I'm looking for a more simplified use of words, so I and some others can keep up.
Trying to follow this discussion/topic with interest, so please, continue.
Posted by ALTRAV, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 9:01:54 PM
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Wow, //I've (ALTRAV) never heard of this Flux system of government, but ironically and very pleased to say that it seems to be the very format I have been pushing for years.//

The nonsense put forward by the non producing parasites from that money grabbing rubbish Bitcoin.

ALTRAV likes this nonsense, with his idea that decision making should be removed from the hands of the democratically elected and concentrated into the hands of a powerful non elected, non representative political elite.

ALTRAV; //Those people who are typically not interested in overseeing the pollies, would just stay out of it as they do now.// Which is not true. they have a vote every so often to choose a representative government through the democratic process. Anything up to 90% of people would be excluded. Previously said he didn't want women involved, make that 95%.

Where is the real political power concentrated? //Those of us (the political elite) who demand efficient and effective governance will play an active role of guidance and assistance (you're doing more than that, its total control) in ensuring the govt does what WE want and not what THEY want.// Governance would be in the hands of a non elected political clique. If its ALTRAV types, they will be a conservative hard right male dictatorial elite.

// and the direction he (the parliamentary male only representative) votes on according to OUR (the non elected few from the elite political clique) wishes. Now there is the rub, the decision making has been taken away from the elected and placed into the hands of a few non elected. The elected become rubber stamps.

This sounds very much like a mix of National Socialism, and totalitarian Communism. Imagine the political power that the non elected, non accountable, elite group of ALTRAV's would hold over society. There would be no need for elections, the parliamentary representative could just be appointed by the clique, after all he is only going to vote according to their dictates
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 1 November 2018 5:05:57 AM
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