Dear Paul,

The topic under discussion here is whether religious
schools should have the right to ban gay students
(and teachers). The cabinet will be discussing the
Ruddock Review's recommendations -
and making a decision on this issue. We don't yet know
what the recommendations of the Review are - or what the
cabinet is going to decide. We'll have to wait and see
when things become clearer.

As for Yuyutsu's attempts at trying to divert this
discussion. He's tried this before - many times.
He could start his own thread on the subject instead
of trying to divert mine.

Dear Foxy,

Regarding the connection to this topic, while replying to Is Mise, Paul initiated the following question:

«Should an employer whose political philosophy is opposed to socialism, have the right to sack a competent and dutiful employee because they discover that employee is a member of the Labor Party? No of course not.»

If we all agreed that the answer to that question was indeed 'no', then that would support the argument that religious schools too may not sack an employee who is discovered to be homosexual - which is directly on the topic.

It is therefore appropriate for me to reject/refute that claim and to do so on this very thread:
As I hold that everyone should be able to sack their employee (subject to their contract and the penalties therein) regardless of their reason (good, bad or none whatsoever) or whether such a move is wise or foolish, so should religious schools.

I hold that while sacking a teacher because they are homosexual is foolish, no state has a right to forbid us to be fools. What could be more relevant to the topic at hand than this?

Mind you, I agree that a school that foolishly sacks a teacher for being homosexual should lose its government funding, so I therefore asked you about it on page 8:

"ESPECIALLY? So what are your sinister plans regarding others who do not want your money and do not rob the taxpayer?"

What could be more directly on the topic than that? Yet I never received a reply!

If you still disagree that my posts here are on the topic, then you are welcome to flag them and ask Graham Young to delete them.

Paul,

"Would it be acceptable for a Catholic school to sack a protestant teacher on the grounds that they do not conform to Catholic values and beliefs?"

That's a loaded question; why did they hire a Protestant in the first place?
Presumably, because the teacher subscribed to Catholic moral values and undertook not to push his/her own religious views where they differed from Catholicism.

Yuyutsu,

I am not going to argue with your logic. Nor do I
need you to tell me as to what I am "welcome" to do,
regarding your posts. If I wanted to contact the
Moderator I would have done so.

As far as your reference to ...what my "sinister"
plans were regarding others, and your reference to robbing
the taxpayer, and why you did not get a reply, all I can
politely suggest is for you to take an "intelligent" guess.

Dear Foxy,

Well kindly tell me what is your position regarding the ability of such religious schools that do not collect or ask for even a cent from government, to reject pupils and/or teachers on grounds of their sexual orientation.

Yuyutsu,

I am not aware of any school that does not get some
form of government funding (state or federal). I used
to think that private and independent schools were
almost fully funded by tuition fees paid by students'
parents - it seems that's no longer the case.
Therefore, in order to answer your question - I would
have to consider the context and circumstances on a
case by case basis. One size does not fit all.