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New Europe Independent States.

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Bazz

There is really no problem with Sharia Law running juxtaposed with common State Law.

It's the punishment side of Sharia law, which should be the sole position of the State to oversee.

Punishment for crimes against Islam need to reflect community standards, with outcomes tolerable to the majority. No capital punishment for example. Lopping off hands as punishment for robbery, is not acceptable by community standards, another example.

Lawyers would love getting their collective heads together on this issue.
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 5 October 2018 10:59:22 PM
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Diver Dan, you seem well informed on the case.
I have not seen any reporting of the case except just one mentioning
the arrest. How have you accessed that info ?
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 5 October 2018 11:00:27 PM
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Bazz

On the rape.

This news has gone global. The perpetrator is actually the victim. It's an ABC left wing beat up to cover the failings of the pro gay march to madness, through gay marriage.

It's also the 40th anniversary of the gay Mardi Gras in February. We really need to be seen protecting young gay boys. Let's forget justice for awhile and get our priorities in order.
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 5 October 2018 11:08:56 PM
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No problem with Sharia law ? You must be kidding !
What about a woman's evidence is only worth half the evidence of one man ?
That women inherit half the amount of their brother's inheritance.
A woman must have four male witnesses to prove rape.
If the man is not convicted the woman is guilty of adultery, (zinner).
The penalty is stoning to death.
Divorce entitlements, can you be that disabled ?
That is just four that come to mind.
You seem a bit disabled, are your parents cousins ?
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 5 October 2018 11:13:29 PM
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Diver Dan said- "Not good for Steven Pinkers theories on peace through Democracy :-))"

Answer- From memory Steven Pinker is interesting. I've recently been listening to Patrick Deneen- Author- The End Of Liberalism. Talks about classical freedom (Conservatism) requiring self control and discipline as opposed to modern "Liberty"/ Liberalism such as that promoted by John Stuart Mill.

See Link - https://muse.jhu.edu/article/225721/pdf - Aristotle conceives of freedom as the capacity to direct oneself to those ends which one's reason rightly recognizes as choiceworthy. This concept of freedom as rational self-direction can be found underlying Aristotle's discussions of natural slavery and democracy.

Patrick Deneen's hypothesis is Liberalism from the Social Progressives (Social Freedom) and the Economic Progressives (Free Trade) are both dangerous to society and serve certain minorities at the expense of the majority. ie. Patrick Deneen's hypothesis is "Liberalism Is Not Democratic". He seems to be advocating a more tribal structure to society rather than a monolithic world centralized government.

I believe that perhaps we can have a balance between power on high and power from the lower levels of the traditional hierarchy of society.
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 6 October 2018 2:18:15 AM
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The article about the 13 year old is very concerning.
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 6 October 2018 2:22:31 AM
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