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The benifits of multiracial over multicultural.
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Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 22 September 2018 12:05:07 PM
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We are told by people such as Foxy's human shield (Robert Russell) that multiculturalism comes with all sorts of benefits. But all of these claims are without evidence. There has never been a successful nation that has adopted policies like multiculturalism. We've had some societies were multiple cultures are tolerated but they've always had a single overriding dominant culture that binds the others to a national purpose. Laughably we are told that we need multiculturalism to help us integrate into the community of nations in our region. Since that region is made up of nations that specifically reject multiculturalism, quite how our adopting the policy helps us fit in is unclear. But it sounds good...and that's all that matters. The policy is doomed. It is and will fail. Either it will doom the nation and therefore itself, or a declining society will come to its senses. ____________________________________________________________ Toni wrote "//Every culture should have their own nation.// Great, where are we going to send the bogans?" Bogan is clearly the lack of culture. Not quite anti-culture, more a-cultural. So clearly they don't get a nation but the opposite of a nation..an un-nation. Yep - the bogans get Canberra. Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 22 September 2018 12:05:32 PM
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This could go on for years; but, neither multiculturalism nor multiracialism, of themselves, are of ANY use to Australia or any other country at all. It was a silly question in the first place. People in Australia, irrespective of race or culture, are needed to work, to breed, keep the peace,and obey the law. Nothing else matters.
Something else that has been overlooked: different races have different cultures anyway, so why bring this subject up in the first place! Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 22 September 2018 1:16:47 PM
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Former Race Discrimination Commissioner Dr Tim
Soutphommasane speaking to the Sydney Institute on Wednesday 9 March 2016 - explained why multiculturalism was successful in Australia and how Australia was different from other countries in its approach. He explained that in many countries immigration occurred without planning. But that wasn't the case in Australia. A well-ordered immigration program has ensured public acceptance of cultural diversity. It has under-pinned the cultural generosity of Australian society. There are important differences between what Europeans have called multiculturalism and what we in Australia have called multiculturalism especially in the realm of policy. The following link explains more fully: http://www.humanrights.gov.au/news/speeches/success-australia-s-multiculturalism Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 22 September 2018 1:40:56 PM
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Toni,
As a bogan, and a Westie (Bankston, Penrith), I find your comments most hurtful. Still, it's your right to express them. As long as Australians adhere to more or less common beliefs of equality for men and women before the law, equal opportunities for all, equal democratic rights for all, and no special rights for anybody on the pretext of religion or tradition, I think Australia will be okay. Certainly, there will be recurrent efforts to subvert those rights and values. But there are Australians from probably a couple of hundred countries and a plethora of religious adherences. Even Muslims are fragmented into Sunni, Shia, Ahmadi, Sufi and other allegiances. Africans, contrary to pig-ignorant believers, come from fifty different countries - and even within those from the same country of origin, may come from at least a dozen different language groups. Polynesians may come from a dozen different islands. Chinese may have historic allegiances to a dozen different regions and languages. Indians may speak any of the hundreds of languages of their homeland. Burmese ? Ditto. Not to mention the Yazidis, Mandeans, Uighurs, Copts, and a plethora of Filipino communities. So one outstanding feature of our multicultural society is that it is incredibly varied. There isn't some sort of unseen multi-ethnic, yet united, foreign plot to take over Australia. On the contrary, like the Greeks and Italians and Poles of a couple of generations ago, there is every likelihood that the current dazzling mix will become Australian, inter-marrying, working side by side, mutually contributing to our ever-changing country. All good. Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Saturday, 22 September 2018 4:00:57 PM
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Ah, the Joe we all love is back! ;-)
Yay! Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 22 September 2018 4:40:50 PM
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But being multicultural isn't the same as having multiculturalism.
Multiculturalism is government policy, not a natural occurrence of several cultures co-existing. It is a policy which says, effectively, that all cultures are of equal value. So people coming to Australia are encouraged to think of the culture of their new home as being no better than that of their old culture. Rather than being encouraged to learn, accept and integrate into the culture of their new home, they are instead encouraged to maintain and nurture their old culture.
IF all cultures are of equal value then clearly the dominant culture of the new home is no better than the culture of the old home. So why bother allowing oneself to be absorbed into the new culture.
Whatismore, those of the dominant culture are told that their culture is no better than any other. So, for example, a culture that (imperfectly) seeks equality for the sexes is no better than one that practices FGM. This causes the young and naive of the dominant culture to doubt the values of their fore-bearers and to see no value in their history. A society with no history is one with no future.
And thus the culture slowly withers. And with it the nation.
The vast majority of nations are multicultural. Very few have gone down the path of enacting a policy of multiculturalism and those that have are suffering the consequences of that feel-good but foolhardy policy.
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