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The benifits of multiracial over multicultural.

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The two holidays Muslims in Australia want remembered Nationally as part of their culture represent the end of Muslim fasting Ramadan or Eid Ul-Fitr; the second is Eid Al Adha and represents sacrifice, remembering Abraham sacrificing his son.

I know several of the posters here find that story of child sacrifice disgusting, and I also find child sacrifice an abomination as taught by the Hebrew Scripture. That was the point when Abraham's conversion occurred from following the gods [Elohim] of his father Terah, to listening to the God of Life El-Shaddai [Hebrew text says Yahweh]; take a ram and sacrifice it. Again the ancient practise of slitting a sheep's throat to bleed it to death is not acceptable in our culture.

I grew up on a farm and had to behead fowls and bleed them, seen sheep, goats, pigs and vealers killed for meat. I never once thought this was a celebration or deserved a holiday. Being Christian the sacrifice system of animals has no longer any meaning, as that finished with Jesus death. Which we remember at Passover known generally from Roman times as Easter. His death ended the blood sacrifice system.

Should Australia now return to the old covenant of animal sacrifice; having been originally settled as Christian with no animal sacrifice?
Posted by Josephus, Sunday, 23 September 2018 6:58:00 AM
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individual, People from every nation bring with them their culinary flavours and family celebrations. However some belief and ideological practices are in conflict with our Australian way of life and freedoms. Do we accept a belief system that puts to death

blasphemers,
http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiY-oeRw8_dAhXSMN4KHZMADqEQFjAGegQICRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbcnews.com%2Fstoryline%2Fparis-magazine-attack%2Fcharlie-hebdo-shooting-12-killed-muhammad-cartoons-magazine-paris-n281266&usg=AOvVaw1FVe7EUJqTyXSodk_nW6LL

homosexuals
http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwibsv7Yw8_dAhWKZt4KHXhtD_kQFjAEegQIBhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theaustralian.com.au%2Fnews%2Fnation%2Fimams-line-up-to-condemn-homosexuality%2Fnews-story%2Fb1df7829507ae0a60875a5577bd21a43&usg=AOvVaw3anm1Y9Zj5WLh3GkrvBac6
and women found in adultery

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=14&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwipnv2bxM_dAhWLfd4KHep7C4AQFjANegQIAxAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abc.net.au%2Fnews%2F2009-09-15%2Fadulterers-face-death-by-stoning-in-indonesia%2F1429366&usg=AOvVaw2zY1WEMEP7-HRmm2MJYeZN

leaving the faith of Islam?
http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=15&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjg4sbkxM_dAhXWQN4KHYxNBVgQFjAOegQIAxAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.heraldsun.com.au%2Fblogs%2Fandrew-bolt%2Faustralian-muslim-group-death-to-those-who-leave-islam%2Fnews-story%2F1c7bd7ae92533a4cb04bbfe6c4f97371&usg=AOvVaw1m5j-HbVM-fiw5unehlRRF

Do we accept this culture?
Posted by Josephus, Sunday, 23 September 2018 7:21:14 AM
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//I know several of the posters here find that story of child sacrifice disgusting, and I also find child sacrifice an abomination as taught by the Hebrew Scripture. That was the point when Abraham's conversion occurred from following the gods [Elohim] of his father Terah, to listening to the God of Life El-Shaddai [Hebrew text says Yahweh]; take a ram and sacrifice it. Again the ancient practise of slitting a sheep's throat to bleed it to death is not acceptable in our culture.//

Yes, there are also a number who find the story of the blood sacrifice of Jesus to be ethically questionable. But we all still enjoy the Easter long weekend, because we're not Christian and we're not celebrating some poor bugger being nailed to tree, we're just enjoying a public holiday without paying the slightest bit of attention to your religious claptrap.

Which is exactly what we'd be doing on any other religious holidays added to the calendar if we're not members of that religion. Pantheist Eid Al Adha isn't really any different from Pantheist Easter; presumably Jews, Hindus, atheists, Buddhists etc. don't give a rat's proverbial about the religious aspects of those particular holidays either.

//Should Australia now return to the old covenant of animal sacrifice; having been originally settled as Christian with no animal sacrifice?//

Mate, it's not even compulsory to drink beer on Australia day or toast the Queen on her birthday.... I hardly think they're going to make it compulsory to sacrifice anything on any public holiday. It'll just be a day off.

I suspect that all this religious carry-on is just a smokescreen, and the real reason you've got your nose so out of joint about this is because you just a killjoy. You're just bothered by the thought of people having a bit of fun, instead of being all cranky and miserable like all decent, civilised human beings.

"Puritanism: the haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy."
- H. L. Mencken
Posted by Toni Lavis, Sunday, 23 September 2018 9:20:05 AM
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Multiracial, multicultural: it doesn't matter. Anyone coming to Australia not a white Caucasian will have a different culture from the host. There is even a difference between Anglo and European cultures. Homogeneousness is the way for all countries. Nothing else works. We wouldn't be talking about it otherwise. One people, one language, one culture. Breaking that rule has lobbed us into the mess we now have.

Yabber about Australia being a 'successful' multicultural country is bullsh-t. There is relative peace now only because the different cultures have little or nothing to do with each other. We are a nation of tribes. As different cultures increase and start carrying on like females, demanding quotas, the sh-t will hit the fan. It is happening oversees, but we are too stupid to learn.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 23 September 2018 9:57:04 AM
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No we're actually not to stupid to learn.
Australia's multicultural success has been predicted
on Australian society accepting immigration as a
nation-building project. In many countries immigration
occurred without planning. But that was not the case
here. A well-ordered immigration program has ensured
public acceptance of cultural diversity. It has
under-pinned the cultural generosity of Australian
society.

Therefore there are important differences between
what Europeans have called multiculturalism and what we
in Australia have called multiculturalism especially in
the realm of policy.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 23 September 2018 11:25:20 AM
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You can't really talk of integration when there is such a massive level of immigration. We need to take a step back as a nation revise our preferences and make a plan. There are always those within society that are in it for themselves- if these forces aren't controlled they suck the life out of it. The more powerful they are the bigger the impact. These people have hijacked the power structures. As Socrates said we have to participate in governance otherwise evil will take our place.

As Sitting Bull said we cannot eat money...

The land and the nation is owned by the culture. You can't sell it outside of your own culture. We need to become more self sufficient so that we can control the influence of a chaotic world- otherwise the chaos will come to destroy us.

We need to buy Australian otherwise Australians won't have jobs. We need to sell property only to other Australians otherwise our land will be owned by foreign interests. We need to control taxes so that government can't control us. We need to be able to provide our own survival needs, security needs- we need to police our own communities, we need to use and build organizations to satisfy our needs for acceptance, success and self actualization. This is Maslow's "Pyramid Of Needs"- we can't rely on the government to provide this. And if we do it gives them more power. We also need to create services within these community organizations for child / aged care so that we can support our communities
Posted by Canem Malum, Sunday, 23 September 2018 12:27:18 PM
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