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Paul, I know you aren't bothered by disparaging and demeaning comments.
I am concerned that the bickering takes us away from the topic in question.
I know that this being a non dimensional medium it makes people feel 'empowered' and 'untouchable'.
Unfortunately Paul, the trade off is that the other commentors on OLO are watching these exchanges and like it or not they begin forming opinions, which is after all what this forum is all about.
Paul, I can see your a tough 'ole bugger', and good for you.
If you recall I used to get a little hot under the collar myself, probably more than you, but I had a reality check and thought if I want people to read my posts, I have to be more accommodating and knock it down a notch.
I don't know if I have redeemed myself but just knowing I may have gone in a little too hard at times, is a good start I reckon.
I realise you are wired the way you are and that is OK, because you are being yourself, honest, you are not being swayed by the PC brigade, expecting you to lie just to make them feel good.
Anyway, just thought that you deserved a heads up.
You never know, if I have spoken out of turn, forgive me, tell me so and I will not mention it again.
Back to topic.
Misogyny is a healthy and natural part of life, so why would it not be in the Liberal Party, the Labour Party, well actually it's everywhere.
So I suggest we all get used to it and get on with life.
Misogyny, is just another part of life.

Thanks ALTRAV, I'll take your advise and leave this as it be. On the score of police I certainly do not, and have never said all are bad. In fact in a "previous life" I had a fair bit to do with the police, on the right side of the law, 99.9% of those I encountered were decent people.

o sung wu, asked what work I did, well maybe I think I did something worthwhile at times, but I don't want to appear as a saint, I'm not, but lots to do with 'Centrelink'. Helping in a practical way to get people onto the right track, as best as. Like "Bill" my last, I get a call from a hospital social worker I know, can I go see this bloke Bill, she fills me in to what she knows. Bill had got into an altercation with a neighbour at the $160/week all single men boarding house dump where he is living, coppers involved, a trip to hospital for Bill. Took three trips before Bill opened the door. His circumstance 62, diagnosed mental illness, on long term 'Newstart' allowance ( a joke for the unemployable, for some they should call it the end of the road allowence), no family at all, just can't get by, wonders the streets everyday. All I got to do is get Bill onto a pension, and into somewhere half decent. After the altercation the landlord gave Bill notice, sorted that out. My involvement, see he's not on any charges, go to Centrelink, and to his employment manager (he unemployable, and has been for years), get him over to a pension (more money for Bill), get him on the houso list for accommodation, that took nine months. Get him the practical things he needs in the new place, fridge, table and chairs, TV (hocked anything he ever had) etc. See he does his hospital appointments. Get him a bloody mobile phone, how frustrating these days not to have a phone. Get him physically moved and settled in. In other words be the friend he hasn't got, that was easy as Bill is a likeable chap. Why me, I'm about his age and can relate with people like Bill, I suppose.
Then there was Phil 70, who lived in a million dollar house (his long dead mother's) without power, dirty as, no income, fell through the cracks, lived off begging, and ate meat pies. Phil's dead now.

ALTRAV you reminded me I AM in need of the chill pill too, yes some are quite wrong in targeting others but in truth there never will be anything other than the moderator can do
I overreact, but I NEVER EVER will consider all out verbal assault is what this site is all about
Not one of us can claim ever his/her views are the only ones
We can continue to, hopefully, say what we think
And I think females are humans, and that we men in this country often are Misogynists, including this government or some in it, tomorrow we may all be forced to agree
Many reasons exist why we do not have a remove them quick moderator, in my view, the very reason this site exists is one, as we all have seen in the past some need this out let, some just must enforce their opinion with posts that may not please all, I maybe one of them, not quite sure, ask my self often, but if we are to forever insult each other we may as well be nothing more that graffiti on a wall

Dear Belly,

Robert Quillen, an acclaimed journalist who was also
a discussion specialist once said, "Discussion is an
exchange of knowledge, argument an exchange of
ignorance."

Now, that was quite some time ago, and with our new
technology and having access to various sites on the
web our methods of communication have changed a great deal.
They're no longer - face-to-face- but people can maintain
anonymity behind their computer screens.

However,
there still remains certain forms of etiquette and
rules that need to be followed. We have a Moderator
who as we know will delete unacceptable posts for abuse.
Posts that are - inflammatory and malicious comments
deliberately designed to provoke and upset people.
Comments that can have a psychological effect on people.

Avoiding this kind of dialogue is not "political correctness,"
it's simply civil behaviour. As my Gran used to tell me -
if you have to stoop to insults - you've lost the argument
because nobody supports an illogical and abusive debater.

Of course, we all will react when the right buttons are
pushed - and make remarks that are inappropriate
however, thankfully we do have our Moderator to
keep a check on what we say - even if at times to tend to
go over the top. I know I've been guilty in the past of also
doing just that. So we're not alone in this.