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Is Misogyny Still Alive and Well in the Liberal Party?

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Paul yes saw that this week will be more than interesting as parliament sits, anyone of us who questions Misogyny exists need only read every post in this thread, now most will not agree but the openly placing woman as secondary,, think about it,,,resembles one of the things we dislike about Islam.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 8 September 2018 5:54:52 AM
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Dear Belly,

I read about a commentator interviewing the daughter
of Sir Robert Menzies recently - and she asked 'Whatever's
happened to our Great Party?" Or words to that effect.

Indeed. I guess we'll get a glimpse on Monday when Parliament
sits. It's a shame for any party when personal ambitions
become more important than anything else. However there is no
excuse for bullying others at work. I know and speak from
experience - I used to work with a woman whose goal in life was
to look for my mistakes and then run to the boss about it and
speak about me within my ear-shot. It was a tactic that even
today - I can feel it's scars. So bullying does have serious
repercussions. And it's not a question of "toughening up."
It's a question of ensuring that this behaviour does not happen
to ANYONE.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 8 September 2018 8:22:33 AM
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There are often other agendas linked with issues of identity politics. Issues of power usually.

When competing with men in sport for example women are on average 163 cm compared with men at 176 cm- so in a boxing match for example the man will tend to have longer arms. In a boxing match having a longer reach is a big advantage. So in a boxing match woman are in theory on average inferior to men. In any team it's important to maximize benefits by allocating tasks based on skills and abilities. We need to take care not to under estimate peoples abilities however sometimes broad measures need to be taken to rationalize the problems complexity- this is a form of stereotyping. The danger of not recognizing abilities is loss of productivity. When competing for the highest prizes such as the boxing world champion those with fewer natural advantages tend to get pruned from the lineup. Character can be a deciding factor on occasion. Politics is a "high prize".

It's largely unknown perhaps why for various reasons women are under-represented in certain roles- the tendency rightly or wrongly has been to blame the male patriarchy. Jordan Peterson's interview with Cathy Newman is interesting. Women seem generally happy to receive positive bias but not negative bias- as an organizations leader you want individuals to be self sufficient and competent. Someone that is reliant on positive bias might not be a good partner.

Sometimes women (or others) in high positions might stir up mass support of women (or others) because they are more likely to benefit from changes in power.

I'd suggest that trickle down economics are more likely to work in a family than in a community.

The issue of gender equality in politics is more complex than most know...

Generally in a democracy- mis-representation is mis-government. But local bias (in this case within the family) is better than national bias (think of two opposing national level groups).
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 8 September 2018 10:51:43 AM
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The biggest difference between men and women is that women are always moaning about misogyny, but men don't seem to bother themselves with misandry. I can think of many reasons for this, but women should start thinking why this is so: they might just find some answers to their problem. They might just find that the problem really lies with them, and blaming men will not solve the problem.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 8 September 2018 11:05:07 AM
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I would've thought misogyny has all but evaporated in Federal Parliament today. You only have to look at the ladies currently holding down Portfolio's & Shadow Portfolio's to see evidence of that.

Whereas I believe any allocation of specific Ministries should be entirely based on Merit and merit alone.

There are many incredibly smart ladies in Parliament on both sides, if they haven't yet been selected to head a Ministry/Shadow Ministry, perhaps it's time they should be given ago immediately. Even if it means removing a sitting Minister, like Christopher PINE, who is as intellectual bereft of everything, as I am!

To the question: Is Misogyny still alive and well in the Liberal (LNP) Party? I think my first paragraph has answered that. Though given the Topic's originator (a Green) nothing that might seek to contradict him would ever do. Only those who would agree with him would satisfy his Green credentials.
Posted by o sung wu, Saturday, 8 September 2018 11:23:16 AM
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Lets have a look at the make up of Federal Parliament based on gender;
Female representation by party;

Nationals 14%
Liberal 21%
Labor 44%
Greens 50%

The Morrison Ministry 23 (79%) male, 6 (21%) female

//I would've thought misogyny has all but evaporated in Federal Parliament today. You only have to look at the ladies currently holding down Portfolio's & Shadow Portfolio's to see evidence of that.//

//To the question: Is Misogyny still alive and well in the Liberal (LNP) Party? I think my first paragraph has answered that.//

If your own figures look lousy, just add in the better figures of your opponents to improve yours!

Well done Walloper.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 8 September 2018 12:13:38 PM
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