Overnight the latest Trump revelations,or is it fake news? made me think just how did he rise to power, my views will be very different than others but they exist, so who is wrong? is his , in my view hate for just about everyone opposed to him something new, did his supporters just need someone to hate/dislike? remember Joe Mccarthy? the Mccarthyism that drove innocents out of the film industry because they had false dreadful claims of being communists made against them by what turned out to be a self promoting bigot? AT, After Trump it is my view his name will be much like Macarthys, what then of his supporters? will they ever question that support? just maybe we need someone to blame hate, dislike, so we need not hold our selves to account but blame *them*

In answer to Belly through the chair-

Perhaps Hate is a politically loaded term- dislike is probably a better word for serious discussion- but not believing in Political Correctness please feel free to use whatever words work for you.

Many of the claims by McCarthy about soviet era intelligence activity were apparently correlated through the Mitrokhin Archive. I'm not sure about the Hollywood Ten and the Blacklist specifically- but propaganda is a useful tool of politics- with newly invented nuclear weapons in play- perhaps the actions were understandable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitrokhin_Archive

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

Toni,

I think your choice of hatee was inspired. People here have been struggling between denying hate for groups and/orr hate for individuals.

But given Sandilands' girth, he could be considered an individual OR a group.

You achieved a twofer.

Kudos.

Belly,

"mhaze you are in no way the person who constantly uses that"

I have no idea what that means. Constantly uses what?

"We could always target free speech, stop them *others* having an opinion"

Ultimately that's the policy those on the left eventually endorse. Stop losing the argument by closing it down. Just call someone a
racist or a fascist and assume that delegitimises their views.

" because they had false dreadful claims of being communists made against them"

Very very few of those accusations were false. They were communists. Whether they should have been punished for it is a different issue. But there was a form of national hysteria at the time which led to witch-hunts. The #metoo movement is in a similar vein.

mhaze not going to support your miss of the sites troll actions, CM as you will be aware other views, far different than yours exist about McCarthyism willing to stand with the majority in that issue,this mornings leak, is it that or a burst drain? about the current hater in the white house is telling,you do not need to be a lefty to see he has half his country deeply concerned, quite frankly some of the comment, about hate, if not showing hate, at least shows a deep dislike for any one showing a different opinion that others
CM you too will be aware even the very best chairman can have his or her rulings challenged

Ok so who do I dislike today?
- The government and its crap policies on smoking.
A mate I've known for years has cancer and emphysema and his body's starting to shut down..
So it looks like I'll be going to another funeral.

Why don't the government just make it easier for people to give up once their hooked?
If they make so much from cigarette taxes why can't they just make patches and all the other things that might help someone give up cheap?
- Like basement price, couple of dollars?

Who stands in the way of good policies?

Why do they put all these chemicals is smokes?
Why isn't their an 'organic' or 'non laced with bloody chemicals' option?
Why don't they make vaping an option if it can help?
And why do they drag their feet in providing CBD if it could've helped?
Too late for that now...

Stupid government incompetence.