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Are we facing civil war?

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Interesting article- we'll see what appears on the current affairs programming tonight and the spin of the Soc media.
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 1 September 2018 2:33:45 PM
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Gentlemen,

My apologies if I have offended any of you.

What I find concerning is that you seem not to
acknowledge the contributions made by people like
my parents who came to this country as refugees.
They were not seeking a better life, they were seeking
freedom. And they were invited to come by Arthur Calwell.
(having fled from their country after the Soviet occupation).

Their initial two-year contracts were their first major
contribution to Australia. They helped to solve an acute
labour shortage in Australia, especially in outlying areas.
Along with other European migrants, they relieved the
shortage of domestic staff in hospitals, increased the
output of building material, helped to build Australian homes,
saved fruit and sugar crops, maintained railways, worked in
sawmills, brick factories, cement works, on sewerage projects,
water conservation, salt and brown coal mining, clearing
land, quarrying, and so on.

A report by the Commonwealth Employment Service dated Sept.
1948 stated that the first 4000 displaced persons were
everywhere employed upon work for which sufficient Australian
labour was not available. This review of their activities
over a very short period suggests how much impetus their
availability in large numbers was likely to give to our housing
program and to our production in other industries which was
vital to the Australian economy.

In the country at that time Australian politicians and others
emphasised the newcomers' economic impact. My parents joined
other migrants in the building of Australia's capital
structures that were to serve the nation for many decades to come.
Their economic contribution was significant at a time when
Australia needed it most.

I won't go into any more details. The history books can give
you that information.

There is a tendency to moralise to say endless things to others
about how they should clean up their houses. Surely we must
clean up ours. The days are long gone when we had the genuine
moral authority from which to preach to others. Let us regain
the ground, take a fearless moral inventory, do the work on
ourselves that we still need to do.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 1 September 2018 3:26:53 PM
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Foxy- I can't expect you to understand. That's why we need to closely manage immigration.
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 1 September 2018 3:46:48 PM
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Canem Malum,

Unfortunately I understand only too well.
To say that we're living in dangerous moments for
Australian democracy is an understatement. Anyone
following the increasingly rapid slide of some
Australians towards illiberalism, tribalism, and
crudity - are not surprised by recent developments.

Clear-eyed observers have been noticing the spread of
formerly fringe and discredited ideas from the edges
of far-right discourse into the conservative
mainstream for some time.

Whether we continue to have genuine leadership in this
country or not - we shall see. It all depends what kind
of a society most Australians want. Do they want to go back to
a nation state whose roots they believe to be based on
white supremacy - or do they want a more pluralistic and
liberal nation embracing a multi-hued democracy of genuine
tolerance and diversity? Time will tell.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 1 September 2018 4:26:06 PM
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Foxy,
I think you need to differentiate between bona-fide migrants & silent invaders i.e. fake migrants.
I am a migrant but I want to see Australia be the place it was, should be & could be, not what it is in danger of becoming.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 1 September 2018 4:41:23 PM
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Foxy

I don't think any reasonable Aussie would doubt the contribution made by the British or any other immigrants here in Australia. The 'wogs' showed many Australians how to sacrifice at work hard. Others like my parents in law lived without power and in a shed with 6 kids on a farm. They provided milk for a town.

The clear problem in my mind is the total dishonesty of mainstream media and Governments in acknowledging clear dangers with some immigration. London is a melting pot in a number of areas. Here in Australia the underreporting and denial of rapes in Cronulla and other areas helped produce riots. Again this was dishonestly reported by fake news outlets like the abc even to this day.

Of recent times anyone complaining about the huge rate of crime among the Sudanese is labelled racist. Strangely enough I have many African friends here in Australia that agree. The blatant hatred taught in some mosques is overlooked. Of course any questioning is 'racist'.

Your labelling of people like Bolt, Murray etc as far right is part of the problem. You like anyone can disagree but it is absolute nonsense to label them far right. What many are saying is that don't want issues debated. If Bolt is far right I don't know what that makes the getup clowns and Antifa facist.

I'm sorry to say but people like you are a large part of the problem by sticking your head in the sand and denying reality. Of course 98% of Australians don't want any violence or internal strife but the lying media, gutless Government and bringing undesirables here will certainly create it and then be dumb enough to ask why.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 1 September 2018 4:45:30 PM
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