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Are we facing civil war?

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Canem Malum,

A woman needs ropes - ropes of pearls.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 1 September 2018 10:37:21 AM
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Of course you wouldn't PAULINE1405, you'd ensure you were NEVER in harms way in the first place. You weren't so much a consciences objector, rather an objector with a guilty conscience.

As clearly evidenced by your own inexcusable conduct. Being among the loudest dissenters; the noisiest demonstrators; and despite it all...always the biggest coward of them all.

Among all this amiable banter, I hope we're still firm friends and fellow colleagues on 'The Forum'. I do recognise (but not quite understand), many of your character deficiencies and personal foibles. And dare I say, 'demons'; as I hope you do mine? In fact I've not known anyone quite like you? Therefore it's for this reason you'd make a fascinating study into the human dynamic. Especially when that individual is confronted with an almost impossible dilemma, at a time his Country has been asked, by it's closest ally, to participate in a war, not of it's making.
Posted by o sung wu, Saturday, 1 September 2018 11:36:36 AM
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Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 1 September 2018 10:37:21 AM-
"Canem Malum, A woman needs ropes - ropes of pearls."

Answer- I'm generally happy to give gifts of jewelry. But there is the item of positive and negative sexism as well as the definition of gender. At least I suspect that you would receive such gifts as they are intended. :)
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 1 September 2018 11:53:39 AM
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Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 31 August 2018 10:02:20 PM- "Is that the best you can come up with, using supposedly dead mates to garner sympathy from strangers on an anonymous forum. Now your involving the forum moderator in your petulant nonsense. Wow, you certainly are a nasty piece of work. I have no concern for you, or your rubbish about what you claimed to have done in Vietnam, or in the coppers."

Answer- I wonder Paul1405 if there anything/ anyone you would die for and how you feel when someone close to you perishes. I can't claim to understand O Sung Wu's mind. From what I see O Sung Wu went through an intense but a somewhat loosely similar process that everyone goes through when someone close perishes- something everyone can relate to. But the situation has crystalised the experience into a monolithic landmark in his consciousness. They say that veterans find that they are unable to discuss their experiences with anyone but other veterans- the same with police officers. These officers have to deal with the pathology of society that most choose to avoid. I find it interesting to see the world through their eyes so that I can try to keep them out of danger in policy.

It's pretty annoying when "someone" calls a professional in to help with something- someone with years of experience on the ground- that's not to say that education is not important but it must recognise its place- and then the "someone" (not understanding what they are doing) spend all their time tearing them down even when the professional is desperately trying to solve the "someones" problem so they can get out the door and avoid the "someones" insults.
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 1 September 2018 12:12:47 PM
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Hi there INDIVIDUAL & CANEM MALUM...

Sorry for my delay in responding, truth is I've not had much sleep last nigh,t entirely due to my sobbing incessantly into my pillow, at all the horrible things The Left' have said of me recently?

If anyone believes that - I'll be utterly stunned I really will be. Even our youngest Grandchild would erupt in uncontrolled laughter if I were to suggest such a thing.

This topic - 'Are we facing Civil War' is far more important than a mere discussion point for; either OLO and/or The Forum. The more I look around our City, it's suburbs & environs, the more I realise how diluted or adulterated our hitherto Australian culture has become.

It'd be absurd to suggest that everyone obviously born overseas, would be a potential dissident or subversive, but we do have impeccable evidence suggesting that certain demographics do have antecedents for radicalised activity, and these are the groups we need to watch.

Yet Labour (The Left) upon winning the next election, would rush to open our Borders, allowing an influx of Boat People to enter our country, almost without the benefit of even a perfunctory check? This issue alone should ensure Labour is kept in Oppositions for awhile longer I'd suggest. I can assure you, to fully establish a person's bona fides, takes an enormous amount of time, as many overseas Agencies will never co-op with Australian Authorities. Moreover, just the mere mention of the word 'police' would raise flags of mistrust. There're language difficulties - The written dialect can be at variance, to the spoken form. We were lucky to a certain extent, most checks were carried out by ASIO, DEFAT and the Fed Police.

Still that's all very necessary, particularly when these Boat People wilfully discard All Their Papers of Identification? People arriving with a genuine Passport, their bona fides are checked and cleared in a matter of six to eight weeks when they're seeking political asylum? Of course it doesn't mean Asylum will be granted, but it does raise the question of their good Character.
Posted by o sung wu, Saturday, 1 September 2018 12:44:10 PM
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I think we could all benefit from
taking a few steps back and consider
our own assumptions and behaviour.

Just as an example - Look at the way that some of us
look at today's immigrants. Those of us who think that
they don't deserve what
we do, and that we have something to protect from their
encroachment. It seems paradoxical to me that we would brag
about our ancestors' coming over by boat, yet condemn someone
trying to do the same thing today.

Of course there are immigrants who abuse our system, just as
there are people born here who abuse our system. The truth is
that the majority of today's immigrants bring with them an
infusion of the same values that our ancestors personified.
They are people willing to work for long hours to make a
better life for themselves and their families.

In many cases -
our children do not stand to be corrupted by their values,
so much as their children stand to be corrupted by ours.
The scapegoating of today's immigrants makes a mockery
of Australian values - values of a fair go and all that entails.
It is a national immorality when we say no to compassion.

Compassion need not , indeed should not, be considered
synonymous with financial expenditure. It means simply a mental
commitment to accept the possibility of options we had not
considered. Throwing money at a problem is not always the
answer. But compassion, understanding, inclusiveness, tolerance
always helps.

Just a few thoughts to consider.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 1 September 2018 12:53:57 PM
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