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Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 30 August 2018 8:55:23 AM
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Dear Paul,
We're living in very dangerous times - we're seeing threats to our democratic way of life - there's an increasingly rapid slide of the Australian right towards tribalism. As I've stated previously - what used to be formely fringe and discredited ideas fro the edges of far-right discourse is finding its way into the conservative mainstream. And as we know - once again the agenda is being driven by the vocal commentators on the party's right - many of whom have been flirting with tropes of White Supremacy for years. The fact that an acknowledged neo-Nazi could make his way into prime-time Sky News is no accident. Nor is it a coincidence that Andrew Bolt has repeatedly played host to such alt-right luminaries as Lauren Southern and Milo Yiannopoulos. The fact is as pointed out earlier - that a broad more tolerant Australian politics can't paper over the fact that racism remains a potent force in our democracy. Despite genuine progress and reform in the 1970s and 80s under Whitlam, Fraser and Hawke, a residual stream of White Nativist politics has always lingered, never quite extinguished. Looking at Australian politics this past few weeks, the question needs to be asked - how far have we come? Not very - is Fraser Anning's first speech is anything to go by. We need to shed our complacency. Those of us who oppose racism and prejudice will have to make our votes count at the next election. Direct action will prove more effective than just expressing our opinions on public forums. Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 30 August 2018 9:41:51 AM
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While posters are either patting each other on the back, or arguing pointlessly with people who have never changed their minds in the history of OLO, it's worth remembering that Australians are among the most apathetic in the world; and their apathy is reflected in the standard of our political class. Australians have no stomach for war, civil or otherwise: they prefer to lay back and be walked over. And thanks to multiculturalism, mass immigration of unsuitable people and he loony left Fifth Column, they will soon be trodden into the sludge. This time next year they will be even deeper down under Green/Labor, and online idiots will still saying the same things in the false belief that their thoughts are important to anyone but themselves. It is quite clear to all but the thickest that a few people (including me) nattering away anonymously on the internet are not going to make any difference whatsoever to Australia's parlous state. One lousy vote for lousy politicians chosen by elites is the only say we get. Pathetic really.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 30 August 2018 10:13:25 AM
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//berate the British settlement as her major concern and not her expertise in her field to add to the Government administration of Australia//
She's not actually in Government, and as a Green she isn't likely to be after the next election. And it really sounds to me like you haven't read past the first two paragraphs of her speech, because apparently you missed this bit: "In 2013 I took that work to the upper house of the New South Wales parliament, which is sometimes said to be the most powerful legislative chamber in the country. That is a gentle warning! I bring to this chamber my track record on shaking things up and shifting the agenda on issues as diverse as decriminalising abortion, drug law reform, LGBTQI rights, the right to die with dignity and protecting our environment. We held the conservative government and the weak-willed opposition in New South Wales to account. I intend to do the same here." Here's the transcript again, maybe this time try reading the whole thing: http://scorchinghotnews.com/greens-senator-faruqi-first-muslim-australian-senator-first-speech/ //If persecution is her concern, then the abuse and misrepresentation I have received by left wing Marxist activists on this site I would have raised previously.// Astounding... he whines about misrepresentation, and then in the exact same sentence turns around and accuses everybody who disagrees with him of being Marxists. Some snowflakes are more special than others. //for Sunni Muslims such deserves a fatwa.// So how many fatwas are you up to now, Josephus? If Muslims like declaring fatwas so much and you're such a vocal critic of Islam, it must be in at least triple digits by now, right? //Ask Mehreen Faruqi and the Greens what she thinks of Jews// Sadly I only know one to ask. Oi, Paul, whaddya think of Jews? //The Jewish Schools and synagogues in Australia have already employed security because of the rise of Islamic action motivated by hatred of Jews.// And because of the rise of neo-Nazi action motivated by hatred of anyone who isn't white. http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/nov/27/antisemitic-incidents-in-australia-up-nearly-10-over-year-study-says Posted by Toni Lavis, Thursday, 30 August 2018 10:18:37 AM
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"As a Green" she might not be in parliament for very long, given their shrinking vote and 'natural justice', and her bad-mouthing of the society silly to take her in. She wasn't voted in, after all, but was shoved in the hole left by the commo woman.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 30 August 2018 11:08:10 AM
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the normalisation of stopping free speach and bashing those who you disagree with has been taking place here in Australia via antifa/greens.
One is not allowed to criticise Islam or suggest we choose immigration wisely without these leftist thugs at least labelling people nazis. The police has been cowered (largely through feminmised workforce) in allowing these leftist thugs to carry out violence and intimidation to prevent free speach. This will not end well as more and more Aussies are waking up to thjis nonsense. People only have to look at London, Paris or Germany to see what disharmony has been brought by allowing the marxist/feminist to have their way. On the other hands its fine for your auntie at tax payer expense to ,mock Christianity. Posted by runner, Thursday, 30 August 2018 12:29:10 PM
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If persecution is her concern, then the abuse and misrepresentation I have received by left wing Marxist activists on this site I would have raised previously. But as a Christian that is expected as part of the course, for Sunni Muslims such deserves a fatwa.
Ask Mehreen Faruqi and the Greens what she thinks of Jews, The Jews in The UK are very concerned and fear for their lives as they are persecuted by the rise of Muslims in power in the UK under Jeremy Corbyn's Labor Party. The Jewish Schools and synagogues in Australia have already employed security because of the rise of Islamic action motivated by hatred of Jews. Islam has an active hatred of Jews, Christians and minorities in their lands, and we are pandering to them in an expectation that they will accept our accommodating culture. Never! Wherever they live they have conquered that land for Allah and must impose Allah's laws over that land. That is why they will not accept Western laws.