Paul1405,

1. I can't say for sure whether your recollections from your childhood are accurate or recovered memories, but I can say for certain that the claim that the Church endorsed and propogated the view that "A vote for Labor next Saturday is a Mortal sin" is wrong. This is mere ALP mythology. It never happened. There is no evidence that it was ever said by any church leader except Bishop Fox who did say he would feel to have sinned if he voted ALP. But he made no calls on other Catholics. I invite you to find evidence for your false claim.

2. The DLP was never strong in NSW. It only elected one Senator in its history and that was from 1970-74 and he was only elected after preference deals. Again ALP mythology that you buy holus-bolus.

3 "The DLP still exists today. " The DLP was disbanded in 1978. All unions associated with it at that time re-affiliated with the ALP. After disbanding the DLP was reconstituted in Victoria under different leaders and different rules.

Foxy, saying I'm the one denying history is laughable.

You avoid the issue of whether Turks or Japanese are a distinct people, regardless of mixed invasive origins.
If they (and Australians) are distinct peoples, they should have the right of all peoples to self-perpetuation.
They (and we) can only do that with control over their homelands.

British invasions were of little genetic difference to the existing population.
There were no African or Asian invasions, only other Europeans, all of whom descend from the same ancient origins (Indo-Europeans).
Mixing European with European still gets European.

The English language has changed organically.
Look at Shakespeare or the King James bible.
We don't speak that way now, do we? But it's still a continuous lineage.

The cultural/genetic influx imposed on Western peoples today is not an organic evolution.

It is arbitrary and artificial, and cannot be compared with previous European historical changes.

It is also overwhelming in scope (6000+ cultures) and speed (millions in decades), unlike previous migration.
Yet you wish to pretend this is no different to past transitions. Absurd!

Shadow,

Mehreen Farugi isn't black, she's an Indo-European just like most of us and probably your good self also, and going by her photo at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehreen_Faruqi
She's lighter than many dinky-di Aussies..

Just how many ordinary 'white' Australians have Negroid ancestors is anyone's guess as the descendants of the 'black' convicts were absorbed into the general population, but there are a lot of them.
Queen Elizabeth I was going on about the number of 'blackamoors' in the London of her time, doubtless some of their descendants made it to the Colony also.

Few people know their ancestry beyond a hundred years or so, I can trace mine back for well over a thousand years and the mixture is unbelievably weird!

Dear Shocker,

Talking about lineages - the Romans brought in groups
from all over the Mediterranean, Africans,
Italians, (Romans) Greeks, Palestinians, Jews, Egyptians, and the
list goes on.

The British brought in people from all their colonies -
Africa, Asia, North America, The Pacific, and the list
goes on.

And yet - accordidng to you they're ALL Europeans.
Can't argue with that. After all if a black African is born in
Europe - he's European. Just as those born in
Australia - not matter what their race, background,
or religion - they're all Australians.
So you're perfectly correct.

cont'd ...

Here's two links on genetic studies of the Turks and the
Japanese people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Turkish_people

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_and_anthropometric_studies_on_Japanese_people

It also may help you to get hold of the "R" volume of an
encyclopedia - and look up human races. You just may learn that
all human beings have a common ancestry. In this sense all
people are related to one another.

Hey Foxy,
I think of Chinese and Mexicans.
Does your standard hold merit with them?
If a Chinese couple have a kid in Mexico is their kid a Mexican?

What happens if all the other Mexicans fail to accept the kid as Mexican?
Is he still a Mexican if the actual Mexicans don't accept them as being so?

What if the Mexican couple have a baby whilst in China? Is that kid Chinese?
What if the Chinese don't consider the kid to be Chinese?

Your saying culture doesn't matter but what if no-one goes along with it?

So does the kid just decide to be Mexican or Chinese on his own regardless of what the people in the country actually think?

The passport might denote citizenship but does it denote culture?

Or doesn't culture matter?
Or it does if your Muslim or Aboriginal and accusing all white people of being racist?
If we don't support the melting pot?