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Reality is bitter- When will it become better?

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So the premiss is that without religion, life will be better. It will not be bitter. And to further this conclusion the idea is to spearhead education to discredit and disprove religion.

However is this something to conclude on how to make life better? It's part of the beginning statements that neither religion nor science have removed man's selfishness or negitivity.

The truth is that the world is bigger then our solutions. It's problems are crime related, poverty related, and greed related, among many other things that factor into it. And having a better understanding, whether religous or scientific are not going to change this.

However, there are things within the scopes of the world that do change people. Equal hardships bring about compassion to each other. Hardships, rebuke our plans and make us re-evaluate our priorities. And sorrow for one person can make them wiser through it, and help another going through a simular pain that they went through.

These are the bitternesses of the world but they also are a bitter pill for us all to change us. Without at least some hardship, I think the dominate quality of selfishness and greed would be unchallenged in anyone. Instead compassion comes not because of our better understanding, but because of our love for eachother.

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Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 3:08:29 AM
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Take this into account when discussing how to make the world a better place. Before devising a plan on how to convince people your ideals are right and the other philosophies and theologies are wrong. Because that might only encourage the divisiveness of what you observe to be a decisive world.

....Which unfortunately is an unavoidable aspect of seeking and spreading the truth on any matter. It is divisive. Separating what is right from what is pure bs. At first this is only divisive, with competing "truths" trying to fight for superiority, and philosophies clash. But the truth should be sought after. On smaller things like misconceptions, misunderstandings and uncovering lies, as well as sought after for the larger things of injustice, crime, and the great harms that plague our world; so that justice and solutions can be sought after, first truth needs to be sought after.

(truths is in quotes because the truth is not relative, it doesn't change. Our understanding, priorities, and likes change. But if truth exists, it is unchanging).

One issue is that what is right and what is true is not agreed on, so offering up a new "truth" won't fix this issue, even if seeking the truth is a worthy cause for other reasons and can contribute to a better world in the longer term. Going out on a war against religion only spreads a new dogma of philosophy. It does nothing to correct the world or make it a better place. Especially if the philosophies against religion are in error. (Which is a possibility that is often ignored, even when pointed out specific errors).

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Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 3:10:56 AM
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So what will make the world a better place? If not knowledge and understanding then what? Compassion and the golden rule. Treat others the way you want to be treated will solve many of the great crimes and bitter situations we put on ourselves. And compassion will invoke in us to take on each others burdens and even forgive each other's wrongs. These two things can be accomplished without being educated about them, and they can be strengthened by education as well. However, regardless if there is any truth in evolution or not, it will not help make the world better and less bitter. Seek the truth on that for other reasons then to fix the greater issues of injustice, crime, and greed.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 3:12:32 AM
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What I have suggested is that crime, injustice etc are committed in the name of religion, ethnicity , castes, nations etc. People are killed in the name of religion without any guilt feeling. One group or nation doses not bother about another group's or nation's suffering because of these irrational social concepts. Superstitious ideas certainly makes the life of millions miserable. Let us strive to eliminate these aspects by teaching the future generations the truth about history, folly of religions etc.
Posted by Ezhil, Friday, 31 August 2018 1:38:45 AM
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are the aboriginals less evolved than the British?
runner,
Please clarify, then or now & which country?
Posted by individual, Friday, 31 August 2018 11:18:03 AM
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Dear Ezhill,

On the one hand you say:

«crime, injustice etc are committed in the name of religion»
«People are killed in the name of religion»

On the other, you recommend:

«Let us strive to eliminate these aspects by teaching the future generations the truth about history, folly of religions»

So while bad things are done IN THE NAME of religion, you ask to blame religion itself. Suppose someone stole your identity to go on a crime spree, would you agree that you need to go to jail for their crimes?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 31 August 2018 12:23:56 PM
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