//So the Greens do not want to ban hunting, that's news to me; reference?//

I can see you're building up to one of your silly little semantics games, so let me just stop you right there and be very clear about this.

I have not said that the Greens 'do not want to ban hunting'.

I have said that I have been unable to find any evidence to support the claim that the Greens want to ban ALL hunting - not in the article linked to in your original post, not in the opinion piece by Nicole Rowan that it was written in response to, not in anything you've subsequently posted, and not by using a search engine (google).

I have said that Greens candidate Nicole Rowan - you know, the person the original article you posted was railing against - wants to ban duck hunting. Which is, I'll grant you, hunting. But it is not, and I must be clear about this, all hunting.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=8417#264353

Alles klar, Herr Himmler?

Toni,

She is a Green and in their Official Web Site they say,

"26. A ban on recreational shooting of all animals, including Australian native water birds"

Therefore she wishes to ban all hunting and commercial hunting is, no doubt, covered by the Greens myriad of other proposed bans, regulations and wishes.

//Since when doos asking a question have all the connotations that you attribute to it?//

Come off it, Mr. Bimmler. We've done this silly little dance about a zillion times before: first you ask if we think people should have the right to self-defence, then we reply 'yes, obviously' and helpfully point to the laws about self-defence that say 'yes, people have a right to self-defence' that you're feigning ignorance of, then you whine that those laws are no good if people can't carry guns for their self-defence. I'd just thought I'd fast forward through a few of these excessively rehearsed steps and get to the point where we discuss the wisdom of winding back gun control laws, which is after all what you're driving at... or has been the last 7,000 or so times we did this, at any rate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2eUopy9sd8

//It is perfectly legal to own a tank in NSW//

Sorry, perhaps I wasn't clear enough before... I do know how you like to split hairs. I don't just want some museum piece. I want a properly working tank, Heinrich. None of your partially decommissioned junk. How am I supposed to hunt for feral cats and adequately defend myself against wrong'uns without a tank gun? And I'll want to be driving it on public roads, down to the shops and stuff. After all, it's no good having a tank for self-defence if you can't take it out in the public square.

Still perfectly legal, Reichsführer?

//What do you think about government sponsored karate lessons?//

What about pointed sticks?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piWCBOsJr-w

Toni, what is your POINT? Nothing STICKS in my mind. Great YouTube.

Toni,

Where have I ever advocated winding back the Gun Laws, apart from the stupid bits?

Personally, I'm all in favour of them, especially the bits that strengthen gun owners politically and the ones that deliver material benefits, such as improved ranges (with modern ammenities), increased safety by proper storage requirements and the increase in new ranges and new gun clubs.

Never have I advocated arming everyone and I've said before that I don't want to carry a pistol, I'm happy with my walking stick, having been a practicer of its defensive use since I first visited India many years ago.
http://magazine.fighttimes.com/the-walking-stick-method-of-self-defence/