Indy,

In Curtin Dr Munjed al muderis was given a number (they did not
refer to him by name) and it was hell on earth as he's described
it many times in great detail. He came here as an asylum
seeker. A refugee. He worked his way to where he is today.
He started off in country hospitals. Anyway, as I stated
previously - he is a remarkable human being and his story is
well worth reading.

Indy,

We seem to be going around in circles and I can see that
it's really pointless to continue our conversation.
I can't give you what you're after simply because I
don't know any people like the ones that you describe.

You asked me to give you an example of any one who departs
university with a BA and feels that that government owes them
a living, et cetera. Sorry I can't help you there. The students
that I know - all work hard and don't have the mind-set that
you describe.

University degrees cost a lot of money and students have to
pay it back. Student fees have been increased. While there's
been cut backs to university funding. So it's a struggle
for most students to survive. Young people are struggling
to get affordable housing and access to jobs so that
they can pay off their fees.

I'll leave things there - we're so far apart in this
discussion. I see no further point in continuing.

Have a nice evening.

I can't give you what you're after simply because I don't know any people like the ones that you describe.
Foxy,
You must be living in a cocoon, what about the likes of Sarah Hansen-Young or that git that recently sprouted off about asking 18 months old babies for permission to change their nappies. They are the Academics I'm referring to, the ones who are of no benefit to society.
Now you have a great evening also.

Indy,

Senator Sarah Hanson Young is not an academic.
She's a politician who like so many does have
a degree. But, just because she has a degree
that does not make her an "academic." I don't
understand you logic in all of this or the
points that you're trying to make. Especially
what's changing babies napppies have to do with
anything?

Foxy,
Because these people are all University educated i.e. academics. This really should be a new topic, Academics vs people with sense.

Indy,

No. academics work within a university combining research,
teaching, administrative duties. Academics are the life-blood
of a university, without whom the institution would not exist.
Sarah Hanson Young is not an academic. She was not employed
by the university. She merely studied there.