Gday BD in your first reply to my thread you asked what post of yours had got me all hot? did you not?
Unions are not all saints but why is it you can find our worst offenders but question that some on the bosses side are as bad or worse?
Saturday Member rang me, no weekends free for a worth while official.
His boss, working for one of south east Asia's leading civil contractors, had spoke.
Rain has put the job back boss said, under your EBA we are entitled to work you reasonable overtime.
This will include the next three rostered days off!
Workers who go home for that weekend only denied that right!
Workers who work 5 11 hour days told it is not enough.
RDO,s that in the EBA are not movable in one case and can change only by agreement from both sides ordered to be worked .
No David day to day unionism is not picketing factory's, not warfare mate it s defending the right for men up to 500 klm from wife and kids to go home for one weekend of month.

Hi Belly
yep..I saw it (where I said I thought you had become a bit hot :) no biggy. But after all.. you did mention 'not quite war' on me and you made a special post bearing my name, so I figured you had a bit of a bee in your bonnet.

Well.. dialogue sorts all that stuff out as shown here.

Yes..on the day to day things you mentioned, and those specific incidents, I do see your point on the need for a means of redress.
In the RAAF we had a 'form' (we almost had a 'form' to goto the loo) called a PP207 "Redress of Grievance"

On the loss of RDO's I imagine they were paid for the time anyway, but I'd be looking to find a way of working out alternative time off from the boss, I can't imagine he is totally devoid of reason.
I do understand how much pressure there can be on bosses at times, it can be so much that the whole future of the company can depend on pushing the boundaries a bit. For example, if the company will be fined or penalized (MEGAfines) for not making a deadline, then they won't be very sypathetic to a worker they are depending on, and who in turn depends on the on going-ness of the company for his every livelihood.

I didn't question that bosses were guilty of shameful practices, I UNDERlined it..and described how the prophets of the Old Testament spoke most harshly to the 'Boss' classes.

Can I recommend you read the first couple of chapters of Isaiah.. you will find a good friend in him.

Back to your early experience of 'born again'... you didn't elaborate on that, would you ?
cheers

"But in a thread about unions and the lies we are subject to BD called on God and I think offered me my last chance[or Union members?] to be saved from hell!
By turning to God!"

LMFAO That's priceless. Sounds like someone else can't separate religion and politics...and conversation. I'll just become Catholic a week before I die and seek absolution. It's good for them, why not me?. ;o)

Sorry BD no intention of reviewing my miss spent post youth, had more fun in the days before.
And st g hope thats my big red v? not last minute conversions for me.
Now as BDs God is a carpenter he is not covered by my union, but if he needs a hand?
I will try, if its a workplace issue.
Now those RDO,s workers pay for them , each day a hour plus is set aside to pay the RDO.
36 or 38 hour week, so the issue is safety.
Actual time worked on a construction site can be more than the 6 days at 12 hours per.
Those who have one day weekends want time at home.
Sometimes time traveling home is 12 hours each way, trade RDO?
no way weary workers too often become dead workers.

Stg...
a far better option for you would be to enter into the life 'In Christ' which the Bible speaks about, and enjoy the 'riches' of inner peace and healing and joy, which is the fruit of the Holy Spirit indwelling us.

Last minute conversions... won't apply if you plan it.

By the way, I didn't dangle Belly over the pit to scare him.. I simply suggest that for both Unions and Bosses, there is a fundamental problem of greed, and only Christ is the solution to that.
New people..not new laws make for a good society.

Have a peek at Romans 12:1-3 :)
blessings