mhaze,

You really are being obtuse.

I did suggest to you that there's plenty of information on
the web that you could Google. You would have found sources
that would have given you all the evidence you asked me for.
Sources such as The Tax Foundation (a Washington Think Tank)
whose modelling shows the impacts of Trump's tariffs (proposed
and implemented). Wikipedia also has done an economic and
trade analysis on the tariffs that you could have found
for yourself.

Then there's also Philip Alston's (expert on extreme poverty)
report about how poverty in the US is extensive and is
deepening under the Trump administration - whose policies seem
aimed at removing the safety net from millions of poor people.
How Trump's policies harm the poor and reward the rich (nothing
new there).

Anyway, if you really want evidence - I'm sure that you're more
than capable of finding it for yourself. I've pointed you in the
right direction.

Foxy no doubt you already know but sometimes knowing far more than your opponent is no advantage, if they do not understand they are wrong, Trump even in America PTY LTD a shadow of what it once proudly told us it was, has 42 percent who are happy with him, I doubt solid evidence and facts would turn their heads either

Foxy,

It just gets worse, doesn't it.

You make an outlandish claim. I aks for evidence which you can't provide and then suggest that if I look then I'll find the evidence to 'prove' YOUR point.

Well Foxy I doubt it, because the evidence to 'prove' your point doesn't exist no matter how much you wished it did.

Now you're alluding to the Alston report for support. But that's the report that sought to prove how bad Trump was by using data from the Obama era. But in fairyland, Obama couldn't have been at fault so it must have been Trump's policies working retroactively ...or something.

So Foxy no reaction to the improving jobs data?

No comment on how many poor people Frau Merkel created by having tariffs on German cars?

I thought not.

Dear Hasbeen,

Trump can most certainly get it wrong as he did with his EPA pick Pruitt, a man you thought so highly of.

“The Trump White House has moved quickly to force out a trio of staffers loyal to former, scandal-plagued Environmental Protection Agency chief Scott Pruitt, according to multiple sources familiar with the situation. One administration source described it as a “purge” of Pruitt loyalists that was orchestrated by a White House staff that had, for months, clashed with the ex-administrator and his team over ethical lapses and lavish personal spending and travel.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/john-kelly-signed-off-on-a-purge-of-scott-pruitt-loyalists-from-epa

This bloke went so far off the reservation for even Trump's team to put up with, but there you were, defending him to the hilt, singing his praises to all who would listen.

What are we to make of your judgment when you can get this so bloody wrong? When you swoon over a swamp dweller like Pruitt?

Embarrassing. It certainly makes you and Trump look pretty stupid.

Dear mhaze,

While it certainly is heartening to see a lift, albeit modest, in manufacturing jobs I think it is pretty fanciful to think they were because of recent tariffs.

The biggest factor attributed to the increase was the lower US dollar making goods made in the US cheaper for export. The US remains the largest producer of manufactured goods in the world. Obama strengthened the US Dollar on the index and it was the highest it had been for a decade.

When Trump took power it dove below 100 within a few months from a high of 103. It now sits at 99 but had been as low as 95.
https://www.macrotrends.net/1329/us-dollar-index-historical-chart

Trump recently said it was too high which forced a correction. He knows that a strong dollar impacts exports but one of his big beefs with China is that they kept their currency artificially low. It will be interesting to see which inventive methods his administration employs to keep it low.

"While it certainly is heartening to see a lift, albeit modest, in manufacturing jobs I think it is pretty fanciful to think they were because of recent tariffs."

I agree, which is why I never said it