Dear mhaze,

You asked a direct question “Meanwhile in the land of that naughty Mr Trump, emissions continue to fall....How that can be possible when he's pulled of of the Paris agreement is unclear”

I answered.

If you knew the answer already then that's your lookout.

However that isn't what I accused you of not getting, it was this;

“Here we send a huge proportion of our gas overseas while a bunch of throwbacks want to kick start a coal resurgence.”

And you really are one of them aren't you.

“By far the best and most economic solution for Australia is to go full-on coal of which we have several hundred years supply, and sell as much uranium to the rest of the world as they want to take.”
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 1:17:44 PM

Clown.

No, Tony. It's not the free market doing anything. It is the government meddling with the free market - subidies etc.

Poor SR,

"You asked a direct question.."

You thought that was a question?

Oh dear,with comprehension skills like that its little wonder that you misunderstand so much.

Then you go on to miscomprehend your own post ("However that isn't what I accused you of not getting"). Or was that just a failed attempt to change the subject from one which wasn't going so well for you? That's a question!

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(an)Tony,

I'm not entirely sure why you'd give me a lesson on the Milankovitch cycles (note the spelling btw) since it was I who showed you, or your alter-ego, about these cycles about 4 years ago.

While what Milankovitch did in terms of sheer mathematic computation was astounding, I'm not sure that your confidence that the cycles explain the causes for ice ages is justified by the data.

But what any of that's got to do with the discussion at hand is something that only ant can understand.

"Here we send a huge proportion of our gas overseas while a bunch of throwbacks want to kick start a coal resurgence".

Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 12 July 2018 4:40:10 PM

Thank god for throwbacks. Apparently the ACCC is all throwbacks. After an exhaustive study & report they are now reporting that without new coal fired power we are stuffed. With any luck disingenuous types like Steely will be overridden, & their self serving garbage will be consigned to the bin of history.

What is your angle Steely, it must be you have some skin in the game,. how do you get a quid out of windmills or solar?

Tony you were going OK, & almost had the full story until this bit of less than half truth garbage. " And more CO2 generated. And the thermal blanket created by the CO2 provides exponential increase in warming. Our earth should today be slowly heading towards an ice age. But CC overriding Milancovich".

If you had continued with water vapour causing an effect on retaining some heat, you would have actually got a good pass mark. As it is with this bit of contrived greeny disinformation, blaming a trace gas CO2 for doing what water vapour does, you win the con man award. Then the bit about "exponential increase in warming" just shows how much you have to try to gild the lily. Ratbag warmists have been screaming about tipping points in global warming, where the only tipping point is warmists into insanity as their con job fails.

You obviously do know the facts, so why the con job at the finish. I can only assume that you like Steely have skin in the game, & are gaining something by twisting the facts to fit a con game you profit from.

Disgusting the pair of you.

It is times like this we can be happy that Turnbull is such a flip flop merchant. He will now have to go with Abbott & the Monash group to save his miserable hide. I do hope our warmist enjoy watching it.

SR wrote: "Plus they [the USA] have a virtual ban on energy exports."

Well there's wrong, very wrong, spectacularly wrong and then there's SR.

There is no ban, virtual or otherwise. The US exports approx 7.5 million barrels per month of oil, Hydrocarbon Gas Liquids etc. (Source: EIA).

But if you just want there to be a ban so that you can criticise Australia for not having a ban, then facts be damned, eh SR?

Oh and while I'm here, given that, as you now know, US emissions are down due to fracking, I'd guess you're totally on board with Australia getting fully on-board with fracking here also?

Trees, don't mention the bloody word, trees.
Here in the West someone must have done a damn deal with the devil.
You mention that we have fewer trees than somewhere in the past.
Well I can tell you that does not apply over here.
Decades ago someone decided that no-one, including farmers were allowed to cut down any more trees.
Then came this stupid carbon capture crap or whatever the hell it was called, and that was based on the planting of trees.
All I can say is what a bunch of morons.
They are planting trees by the thousands, and I mean everywhere.
Median strips, verges, anywhere they can find a space to put one.
The sheer stupidity of these people is beyond belief.
They are even planting them down the middle of normal roads so we are frighteningly close to them as we drive down the road.
Driving through the metropolitan area today, and years from now, you think you are in the bush,everywhere you turn, TREES.
They have even broken their own by-laws to accommodate this sick ideology.
Whatever it is.
I don't know what's going on, but I'll bet it has something to do with someone making money.