Hasbeen, stunning! to use your own failure to understand much at all to remind me of my shortcomings! think you may have read we have more roo,s not more trees

//Sorry my mistake, I forgot about how on a hot summer day people used to head on down to the LAVA LAKE for a quick dip to cool off.//

OK, fine, every geologist in the world is wrong and you know better than them because they're all so thick that they've forgotten to take account of the fact that lava is hot, herp derp. But you're the smartest man alive and you know everything about everything. I only volcanologists knew as much science as you, the they'd know that lava is hot too.

Sometimes I really do wonder what goes on inside that melon of yours, AC.

Toni,

"Right, and you don't think that the abnormally low temperature associated with the Dalton minimum had anything to do with the volcanic winter effect caused by the eruption of Mount Tambora?"

Tambora went off in 1815 while the Dalton minimum ran from the late 18th century through to around 1830 (some say 1850). While there is little doubt that Tambora caused a further fall in temperatures for a year or three on top of those already occurring,it didn't cause the fall.

"The variation in solar irradiance between solar minima and maxima is approx. 0.1%. "

That may be true (the quantum is disputed) but also possibly irrelevant. The more favoured theory doesn't revolve around irradiance but about the strength of the solar winds. Svensmark's theory, for example, postulates that weaker solar winds allows more galactic waves to reach the earth which in turn stimulates more cloud activity. Clouds in turn cause cooling because it gives the earth enhanced albedo.

Meanwhile in the land of that naughty Mr Trump, emissions continue to fall.... https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-08/co2-emissions-hit-67-year-low-trumps-america-rest-world-rises

How that can be possible when he's pulled of of the Paris agreement is unclear <sarc>

Thanks mhaze, I really couldn't be bothered trying to explain any of this to these dummys. Most of them probably already know most of it, but have skin in the argument, & don't want to admit the truth. A huge number are hitching a ride on the gravy train today. If the funds for global warming research stopped flowing, thousands would no longer have a job, & half our universities would be broke.

As my mother used to say, "There is non so dumb as those who don't want to know". To day we probably have to add, or those who know, but can't afford to admit it.

Dear Hasbeen,

When your mum use to say to you "There is non so dumb as those who don't want to know" I think she knew full well who needed to hear that message.

I think your mum would have been pretty switched on. Pity that little pearl of wisdom didn't stick.

Yep the regressive gw religion is shameless. Though every prediction they have made in the last 30 years have failed and yet they still persist. Meanwhile as we pay massive costs for electricity India, China and the US laugh at us. I never thought Josh Frydenberg would sell out to such nonsense. Turnbull, Shorten, Bishop and the Greens I understand as they obviously need a religion to follow.