Dear NNS,

A number of years ago I was in Morocco, and a man there told me I was going to hell because I was not a Muslim. There was no more reason to believe him than to believe you. Hell is an unpleasant fiction created to frighten people. Such nonsense may frighten little children but should not frighten grownups. There is no tooth fairy, no Santa Claus, no heaven, no hell, no God etc. These are fictions.

We are two sides of the same coin. You want to save people from hell. I I want to save you from superstition.

Dear NNS,

It sounds like you have found a way of contributing to this
forum in a way that makes sense to you. I am happy for you.
I've also found my own style that really feels good for me.

david f may I say your view is mine, humanity can be one if we live with reality in this matter

How do we achieve agreement on the definition of good before we start fighting for it ?

Dear individual,

Some fights may be a consequence of the fact that different sides had different definitions of good.

To Foxy. Fair enough. Sorry if I pushed the point too hard.

To Individual. Any topic a person thinks is important can be counted as the "good" that they are fighting for. So the "good" doesn't have to be agreed on. However, in debates if the fight loses it's reason to fight (such as fighting because of insults being thrown to and defend yourself, or long periods of arguing with some one who you've no reason to believe they will change their perspective) then it loses the "good fight" element that was part of the reason to fight the good fight, and turns into a reason of arguing for the sake of arguing.

Individual, would you like examples of what people are willing to fight for, compaired to what the fight turns into?

My question on fighting the good fight versus fighting for the sake of fighting can be looked at in this way. At what point do you draw the line to walk away and wash your hands from an argument, a conversation, or a person? To not stand up in the fight even if it holds a cause with defending, or even if you are defending yourself. Is walking away ever the answer? Should it be?