To Armchair Critic.

The only reason religion is a focus of this conversation is because I've posted on Christianity in the past. Outside of that, the reason for it being focused on should be very minimal, with regards to the the topic. I'm not suprised any more. And I'm not going to spend 20+ posts trying to say "stay on topic, when those who have an issue of my beliefs don't care about the topic. It's a lost cause. (As are apparently any topic I start). Thanks for noticing.

As for your article, I wonder if the article was titled in that way because of the location of the crime. Down in the article it mentions that police presence is high in the snow fields so these kinds of disturbances don't occure. Kind of like the article is trying to acknowledge a crime without harming tourism, or make any notice of the crime. Just a guess.

For anyone still interested (if anyone ever was...) here is an example of what I was trying to address in this topic.

A fight that is fought just for the sake of fighting. Holding no grounds for furthering a cause or to fight any good fight, (whatever cause could be counted as good, regardless if it's agreed on).

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=8334&page=1

The conversation is started over politicians and in this case, it is the politicians that are fighting just for the sake of it, not the posters on OLO. If anyone is interested look at the conversation and see for yourself. Would a lawsuit over an insult be anything you would count as justified? Regardless if you would say the insult is justified or not, is the lawsuit justified?

This is probabley the best example for fighting for the sake of a fight and nothing more. Because it is not an active critism on anyone here. However I am sorry but there are too many occurances of us fighting for just the sake of it. I'm guilty of this as well. It's something that we as a whole need to work on. Both on OLO, and in general life.

Dear NNS,

You wrote: "However I am sorry but there are too many occurances of us fighting for just the sake of it. I'm guilty of this as well. It's something that we as a whole need to work on."

I am shocked. I assumed you believed in what you were fighting for. I thought we had an honest difference of opinion. If you are fighting for just the sake of it, it is indeed something you have to work on. It is not something others have to work on.

To David F.

I do believe in what I fight for. I am also recognizing when it's no longer about that fight that I believe in, but becomes about Insults and defending one's self. With that in mind, I am not alone. Look at the debates that go on. And see how often there is an insult to demean a poster along with their stance, instead of just countering the arguments. How often the debate spirals into two people talking past each other, or just repeatethemselves.

There are other symptoms of a fight losing it's core reason to fight, and becoming it's own cause to continue on in a fight for the sake of fighting on without real reason. For now, just be aware of the sitution of fighting for a cause versus fighting for no real reason. Knowing is at least half the battle. (Possibly 3/5ths of the battle). Walking away in spite of your own anger and frustration in those times is also part of it too.

The earlier conversation you and I were in (that we discussed about again) was a very good example of fighting for the sake of fighting. It got ugly. You should be able to look back on it and see where you should be ashamed of your own comments. There are a few of mine that I should have walked away in anger instead of responding back to instead. Even if I can keep my tone completely civil, (I lost my patience, I'm sure that was noticeable and wasn't civil). But even if you or I can stay civil, there should be a point to walk away and not feed an ongoing fight that is going nowhere except more of the same.

With this in mind don't assume innocence of fighting for no core cause. You believed in your fight probably as much as I believed in mine. Yet it eventually lost all scope and became about you and me. My admitting this is an issue for me to work on does not excuse you from it, or excuse anyone else.