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Fight the Good Fight?

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What is fighting the good fight verses fighting for the sake of fighting?

Is defending oneself / defending one's beliefs and perspectives fighting the good fight, or is it only worth while when you're in danger?

Is standing up against the wrongs of society, and the injustice and cruelty of others fighting the good fight? Or is that turning the people fighting against it into the same as what they are fighting against?

Even on the things we can say are fought for that are worth it. Is it fighting the good fight to make a difference? Or is it fighting other people's personalities, and your history with them? Changing nothing except to fight for the sake of the fight. "There's more to say, more to do. The battle is not yet lost." Is the fight really about anything else except the fight?

I have shared my beliefs and defended them. I've seen others do the same for their beliefs, their social causes, and the politics they stand by. And at the end of the day, I wonder. Was any of it of value? Was it fruitless like chasing the wind?

I have corrected what I saw as misunderstandings and mis-truths, and have watched as others try to scope each other's merit down by calling one point meaningless, or another point a fallacy. Each one probably believing they are the one uncovering mis-truths and lies. Is the fight in us something that makes us lose the ability to listen? To be corrected, and become better informed? All because we we fought for the sake of the fight itself. Mistaking that for fighting the good fight. If no one corrects you how will you know any different? But at the end of the day, I ask. Was it worth it?

I've stood by those I've seen as being bullied, then later learned that sometimes they weren't being bullied as much as they were just talking to someone who was fed up and angry. Too often with a justified reason for their anger. Who was fighting the good fight in those instances?
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Thursday, 5 July 2018 1:39:59 AM
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Dear NNS,

We do not and will agree on what is good. You can only do the best that you can do, and I can only do the best that I can do. I have fought and argued for my beliefs. Perhaps it is better if we learn to live with people who have other beliefs rather than to try to get them to adopt ours. That is an alternative to fighting.
Posted by david f, Thursday, 5 July 2018 10:12:39 AM
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Dear NNS,

Should have written:

We do not and will not agree on what is good. You can only do the best that you can do, and I can only do the best that I can do. I have fought and argued for my beliefs. Perhaps it is better if we learn to live with people who have other beliefs rather than to try to get them to adopt ours. That is an alternative to fighting.
Posted by david f, Thursday, 5 July 2018 10:15:07 AM
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Dear NNS,

I've written so many times on this forum that the art
of reasoned, intelligent argument is a skill not
easily acquired. Arguments are something we all confront
at some time. I believe that sound reasoning will conquer
unreasonable generalisations every time. However it is
important not to sound too dogmatic. If you don't listen
to the other person's opinion you will be deemed pig-headed
and will either be attacked or subsequently ignored.

It's also helpful to know your topic. Whether the topic is
politics, religion, television, or guns, make sure you are
informed especially in the latest developments. Using
statistics gives the element of authenticity to your opinions.

The final point to remember is to at all times remain calm.
Try not to appear insulting or abusive. No-one likes or
supports an abusive, illogical debater. It's best not to
appear to be arguing on an emotional level, but a mature,
intelligent one.

Of course this is not always easy to do. When the right
buttons are pushed - most people will react. However,
I personally feel that as long as our intentions are not
just to win the argument, then one can feel good that
they've spoken their mind without malice or anger but from
the depth of their truth. It is important to be conscious
and compassionate and act with civility. However it is
also important not to forsake one's own wisdom because
of the fear that you will lose something.

What's more important? Losing your face, or losing your
integrity?
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 5 July 2018 11:55:33 AM
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"What is fighting the good fight verses fighting for the sake of fighting? "

Verses are what you have in poetry; I think you meant "versus", Latin for "against", or "as opposed to"...
Posted by Doug, Thursday, 5 July 2018 12:11:09 PM
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In the end if no one stands and says what they think is right we may just own the injustice we now fight against
, apathy kills
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 5 July 2018 12:20:19 PM
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